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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] Halafax@kbin.social 272 points 1 year ago (8 children)

So you are saying there is a house on the market now?

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 223 points 1 year ago

Step 2: find out

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 209 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the flip side, transplant given to person who follows medical advice

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She did several people a solid over the course of her senseless battle for the hill that she died on.

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[–] VO0RHAMER@lemmy.world 154 points 1 year ago (156 children)

Trusts doctors enough to be cut open and have someone elses organ inserted into their body. Doesn't trust doctors enough to get vaccinated

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 154 points 1 year ago (5 children)

She died rather than accepting a free to her, safe, and effective vaccine.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well the vaccine could have killed her!

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[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 130 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had a double lung transplant 6 years ago. You have to be EXTREMELY compliant to even get put on the list.

So many meds and tests and shit stuff you need to follow EXACTLY, every 12 hours, every day, for the rest of your life.

If you refuse a vaccine you're never going to care for your new lungs. It's not easy.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope. That's why the courts allow transplant coordinators to require that you be vaccinated. This vaccine was so incredibly safe that it's ridiculous that she chose to die rather than getting it. I mean, literally the worst thing that could have happened to her because she got the vaccine happened to her because she didn't get the vaccine.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (12 children)

This vaccine was so incredibly safe that it's ridiculous that she chose to die rather than getting it.

Unlike the transplant meds. Pretty large increase for cancer from them.

Seems weird to refuse a COVID vaccine, but be fine swallowing a ton of meds every 12 hours that increases your risk of cancer significantly.

Obviously me and many others accept that increased risk, because like you said, the other outcome is just dying straight up.

In the end I'm glad the organ went to someone else who will respect and appreciate it.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fact is, there's more people in need of transplants and simply not enough viable organs to go around.

I'm not going to fault the transplant committee for denying someone over a vaccine. Simply, why give this very finite and very precious resource to someone when they're just going to go get themselves unalived over something as dumb as a 100% preventable disease or something just because they have a brain malfunction that makes them think vaccines are bad. Especially when so many other people are literally dying without the same organs, who are more than happy to follow doctors instructions to ensure they can live a long and prosperous life with the replacement they desperately need.

It's all rather silly.

The thing that probably bothers me the most about organ transplants in general is that if cloning research and stem cell research was allowed to proceed properly, it's entirely possible that science could find a way to grow you a replacement of your own organs.... Apart from genetic problems causing organs to fail, it would almost completely eliminate the entire demand for organs. But no, some idiots don't want cloning because it upsets their imaginary friend.

On a related note, go fill out your donor card people. Even if you're one of those "nobody will want my organs" type of people, do it anyways. The transplant people will figure out if your organs are viable when you no longer need them anymore. Let them figure that shit out for you. Just check the box to be a donor and don't think about it any further.

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 125 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

What do you mean I have to stop drinking gin if I want a liver transplant?

Patient dies because she didn't follow doctor's advice.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 120 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Better the organ saved the life of a non-moron.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you aren’t gonna take steps to protect yourself, you’re not worthy. There’s a long list and many people who will work hard to safeguard such a gift.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 year ago (9 children)

β€œTaking this vaccine offends my conscience. I ought to have the choice about what goes into my body, and a lifesaving treatment cannot be denied to me because I chose not to take an experimental treatment for a condition β€” COVID-19 β€” which I do not have and which I may never have,” Lewis said in an affidavit.

I guess she died with a clear conscious. πŸ™„

Seriously though, taking an organ from the waitlist and then inevitably getting COVID while immunocompromised is .. not very cool.. for the next person on the waitlist.

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't give organs to alcoholics who don't stop drinking either.

Good luck getting a heart of you refuse to quit eating a hamburger an hour.

Look, you have to pass a baseline level of taking care of yourself to qualify for an organ, and vaccinations are the bottom, base level first line of defense.

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[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 year ago (7 children)

She probably should've gotten the vaccine, huh?

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

And suffer the potential consequences like a mild headache and a sore arm for some days? Never!

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[–] JTode@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Transplants are incredibly strict about you not just wanting to live, but doing everything you can in order to live. It is good that the transplant went to someone with a sense of self-preservation. Utter waste on the likes of her.

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[–] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What a bonkers hill to literally die on.

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[–] pingveno@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"Taking this vaccine offends my conscience. I ought to have the choice about what goes into my body, and a lifesaving treatment cannot be denied to me because I chose not to take an experimental treatment for a condition"

Hun, you're not the only person who is looking for a transplant. If you're not going to protect yourself from COVID-19, you don't get the organ. Plain and simple.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup. The courts have long held that being vaccinated can be a requirement of getting an organ transplant. Organs are hard to come by and they should go to the people who are going to listen to their doctor and do what needs to be done to keep that organ alive for a long time. If not, it should go to someone who will.

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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Freedom isn't freedom from consequences

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woman chooses to die in favor of the comfort of stupidity.

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[–] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The important thing is that she stuck to her principles. :/

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 46 points 1 year ago (35 children)

rip bozo. That was her fully conscious choice to die

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Solution: Get vaccinated. (It's Postmedia, so odds are pretty good the story is exaggerated or outright fake)

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if it’s not fake… this is kinda how it is. You’re required to jump through so many hoops to get a transplant. One of the steps is to suppress your immune system, and not taking one of the required vaccines increases the chances of not only your death, but the waste of the organ.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

Agree. Vaccinations are important, especially in the case of transplants.

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[–] gamer99@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tragic, one more victim of a toxic belief

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good. These people paid their nickel and took their chances. It's not anyone else's fault that they made a stupid bet. It's no different than those whiners suing over their stupid NFTs being bad investments.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

damn that sucks better luck next time tho

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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