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Preface: Love this instance, happy to be here and this isnt a complaint just an observation.

OK so I mod a few communities across several instances, big and small. 3 on this very instance, I have noticed a pattern that posts on this instance tend to get a consistent early downvote count.

This might be my bad observations or the type of posts I see so I'd love to hear if anyone else has noticed the same.

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[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also got to say, this literally does not matter at all, this is just a random observation

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There are definitely instances with early downvotes, yours being one of them.

And even though "it doesn't matter", it's still mildly-infuriating to see obviously innocuous/irreverent posts/comments being dogpiled, nevermind the innocent/informative ones seemingly because "I disagree!".

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Somebody wrote some down vote bots earlier, just to downvote everything... I think a couple of them got banned, but maybe they put them back up....

I believe a lot of the down vote behavior is the classic " I disagree ". Though I wish people used downvotes more sparingly, and to indicate they think somebody is not contributing at all to the conversation.

I do think the down votes have a chilling effect on some people, especially people who like to lurk, they see a bunch of downloads on a conversation they're unlikely to say anything.

Oh I didn't know about that

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My only fear is how it affects either on the scaled algorithm or how people's view is biased seeing a controversial post.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Once a post or comment gets to -2, it's doomed.

[–] spidervl@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's still mildly-infuriating to see obviously innocuous/irreverent posts/comments being dogpiled

I think early downvoters are just trying to induce others to follow them because they're assholes and have nothing better to do. Unfortunately, it's pretty common with both Reddit and Lemmy.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It seems to be more prevalent on lemmy - if the post or comment gets 3 or 4 downvotes before it even gains traction, then it's dogpiled.

You can see it irl yourself. Post the same comment in a different thread (within the same post!), and watch the difference.

[–] spidervl@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It seems to be more prevalent on lemmy

I've noticed this with the two largest Lemmy instances -- .ml and .world.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't mod any communities but I do put in the effort to curate my "All" feed and most of the users & communities I block come from those 2 instances. Toss hexbear on there and that's almost 100%.

The .world is tricky bc it is such a large instance and that's where many new lemmings land so it's always going to be messy.

I still have my world account but never use it. I prefer being part of db0.

[–] spidervl@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I don't mod any communities but I do put in the effort to curate my "All" feed and most of the users & communities I block come from those 2 instances. Toss hexbear on there and that’s almost 100%.

I specifically avoid all three of them as well, along with Beehaw.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago
[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I normally use my .world login, and there are 2 instances specifically on my regular scroll (all, active) that are at 0 or less mere minutes in....

[–] spidervl@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago

That's weird. Someone else here in the comments section mentioned downvote bots, so it might be that (?)

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I haven't noticed it to be honest, but there's known bad actors, who for example downvote everything about piracy or GenAI. It's possible to determine accounts who go around and downvote everything via the DB, but I'm too lazy to do that rn :D

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That also feels unnecessary unless its bots which is unlikely. Plus whyvon earth would anyone downvote piracy or genAI content on an instance about piracy and genAI

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

People be salty