Would be cool when the Russian People would fricking do something about it then?
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
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Would be cool if they had the power to do something about it then.
Well, if they all banded together, went to the streets and protested together - what bad could happen?
Arresting everyone? Hundreds, even thousands of people? How big should that prison be?
The old Soviet prison cities still exist. So yeah, that’s a possibility
They kinda did it a few times, I dunno if you remember, but it was Obama with his rebooting relationships with Russia and madam Merkel with her firm belief in peace through fossil fuels trade and such. So both USA and EU countries and many others were recognizing Putin's elections as very good, very democratic and about protesters would kinda ask to be softer with them, while TV talking heads and morons in the web would explain everyone how it's better that Putin remains in power, after all, what if communists or neo-nazis come to power and, for example, invade a neighboring country?..
Arresting everyone? Hundreds, even thousands of people? How big should that prison be?
Hundreds and thousands - perfectly realistic and has happened. Were let go after some time because it was a different time and they needed sorta illusion of being softer.
If they didn't have the power then there wouldn't be so much oppression going on in Russia.
They just have to exercise said power.
>‘Victory’ is for ‘them,’ the state – not the people
It wasn't third year of the war. It started about 10 years ago. This was just the recent escalation. Apart from that, Russia has been in war with its neighbors (Georgia, Chechnya...) almost since it came to the existence in its current form. 30 years now?
Also worth mentioning that the russian military has a stubborn drunken "culture" of brutalizing its' soldiers, either in a direct sadistic manner or through neglecting their dignity and basic needs. Cannon fodder, regarded and treated as such.
Also on strategic/tactical level, as I've heard. That was probably one of the things that led to Wagner's uprising.
Eh, not having that culture is a relatively recent thing even for Western militaries. Or I think I've read so about Commonwealth and US navies ~100 years ago. Their ground forces by then already got rid of it. I think so, it's all vague memories of reading something.
EDIT: And consider the fact that even in 1905 Russian army ranks would be formed of recruits, not conscripts. People would get randomly (kinda) chosen for long military service. Still in that army Dragomirov was quite popular, with his "a man taught to fear the superior's stick will by habit fear enemy bayonets" and such things about treating soldiers with respect. The specific disregard for people, I think, came to Soviet army around 60's and 70's, when soldiers were casually used on various civilian jobs as part of first restoration of the country after the war, and then simply to fix planning errors and just as part of corruption, slave labor, one can say.
Still the current scale of war is something recent Russia hasn't experienced since ages.
Easily their worst war since WWII. Afghanistan had a small fraction of the casualties they've seen in two years Ukraine, and it lasted a decade.
"Prewar-past"
Oh so to a non-warring state?
Huh. So surprising.
Warring is some boomer shit.
So just like us, then?
I'm feeling kinda hopeful now, kamala came out swinging and gen z is riled up for her, and meanwhile the rnc gave us the surprise vp pick of "just some guy"
Numbers are too low. Suffer harder.
