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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 192 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The upper management is scapegoating the workers for their mistakes

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 109 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You would think that they would move hard to make sure they were hiring the best and more people to ensure bullshit like FRYING THE ONLY COMPONENT PEOPLE WANT FROM YOU BY USING YOUR PRODUCT NORMALLY would be paramount. But no. Fire everyone but the C-Suit, do some stock buybacks, ????, then profit.

Line must go up.

I swear to god if companies don't realize that the point is to make a product or service that people want to use, I'm gonna sue them in Texas and hope to finally get the corporate death penalty.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I don't think that's scapegoating, that's just cutting costs (which they are great at, judging by the quality of their CPUs)

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 95 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (21 children)

If it were a sane world I'd be worried about my Intel stock but investors seem to get hard-ons at news of layoffs so it'll probably go up.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 months ago

Layoffs always make financial numbers look good for a moment. People are expensive.

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[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I honestly thought this was about to be another orb post from the thumbnail.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Wanting to ponder, huh. Me too.

[–] Uschaan@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd hate to be named Jobs, working at Intel. 🔪

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Especially if you're the only one

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Guys, i'm sorry to say that 15 years of avoiding innovation because we were the market share leader has to end. We thought AMD was a joke after so many issues in the 00's so we got complacent.

So we have to can all of you marketers who are shitposting on our advertising "review" site and hire some R&D people. Maybe we can scalp some from AMD.

Sincerely, Intel Executives

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

sounds good, lets_eat_grandma

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I guess he likes his roast beef well aged. lol

But yeah, Intel is a company that only innovates when they have to. If it wasnt for AMD they'd probably only produce a new CPU every 2-3 years to save on R&D costs.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't it essentially Intel's fault that instead of moving to automated fab configuration, they kicked back and let TSMC get most of the world's capacity for these new generation fabs, right on top of a geopolitical faultline? Another example of corporate decisions by near-monopolies harming the national interest.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Hell, in this case the global interest, the problems with these corporate decisions and monopolies can cause major issues for pretty much everyone.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Extra mayo!!!

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 months ago

All those fab workers didn't make a mistake, the executives did.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Government handouts need to come with some extremely strict rules attached. Alas, our government has been purchased by capitalists, so it will continue to be free money but only for the people who need it least.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

They shouldn't be handouts, they should be share purchases. You want Uncle Sam to deus ex machina your greedy ass? Sure, but Uncle Sam now owns 40% of the company.

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I would go a step further and say that it should not be a stock purchase but partial nationalization. The government is not getting shares that will be sold later. The government is getting a right to appoint part of the board of directors. Every time the company issues a dividend, buys back stock, or engages in other activities to return value back to the shareholders, a proportional amount of money must be paid to the treasury. It only makes sense that if a company is so big that its failure is going to hurt society as a whole, it should be owned by society.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Fuck yeah! Their wealthy buddies would start bailing each other out if the alternative was the government buying the company at rock bottom and competing against everyone to build it back up.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The wrong way to take responsibility.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

The good part is that the amd64 ISA is going to become less relevant if they go on like this. Maybe we'll have those RISC-V PCs after all.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Management fucks up. Management loses money. Management cuts costs.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I plan on cutting intel out of my purchases for every single computer I make going forward. I bought an effected processor JUST before it came out that all their 13-14 gen processors will fall apart in just a couple months of use.

Planned obsolescence but it’s metastisized

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

When it was time to upgrade my PC awhile back it took me a long time to decide between the old school equal cores model and the new 12th-gen ones with BIG/little segregated core architecture. I wanted to future-proof my build so it would last a long time, but I chose the more conservative option of the old-school design for a number of reasons.

The Rocket Lake one turned out to be a great choice. I have 8 cores that can hit 5GHz and rock-solid reliability.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s kinda of odd watching the early 2000s amd repeat itself with intel

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AMD didn't ship defective CPUs.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 months ago

True, I was more saying the decline, like lack of performance, hot as fuck chips etc

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think Intel needs to go through the humbling experience that AMD went through.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully AMD doesn't pull an Intel and get complacent and spend over a decade doing basically nothing (at best) or or delivering subpar parts (at worst)

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, I think AMD doesn't even have the choice to be anywhere near as complacent as Intel.

ARM is on the rise, and that means multiple competitors incoming, both in the PC and console space.

Nvidia wanted to buy ARM, and despite that falling apart, Nvidia will be coming out with ARM CPUs (I imagine they're, smartly, letting Qualcomm and MS sort out the teething issues with Windows on ARM before they swoop in and look polished and stable right out of the starting gate).

AMD also doesn't have to pay a shitload to maintain, expand, and improve fabs - that's all on TSMC. So the whole aspect of choosing between investing tens of billions or letting fabs stagnate isn't a thing for AMD.

Yeah they could stay on the same process for 5 years, but I highly doubt they'd do that given the ARM competition, doubly so because they don't want somebody else to take away their "we're TSMC's second favourites behind Apple" position.

In other words, I don't think AMD has the financial incentive to stagnate like intel did. From a business perspective, it was an absolute no-brainer for Intel to stagnate; AMD's comeback was an unlikely one. To date they're the only company that's recovered in the x86 space after falling back into complete irrelevance.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

with all the controversies and court ruling against intel, do you really think.. by this point, they are even capable of being shamed into being humbled?

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

CEO have himself a 45% raise last year. When do we eat the rich?

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

It should have been obvious when they brought Pat back.

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