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[–] DragonConsort@pawb.social 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, jesus.

I work aerospace (non Boeing company), which is basically space technology for babies. The least competent guys in our building have done three year training courses specifically tailored to assembling planes. There are people on our shop floor who can explain the entire build inside out from start to finish who are just considered above average competency.

Space technology, where everything somehow costs even more than aerospace and requires precision the likes of which could make your eyes bleed. I shouldn't be surprised Boeing would skimp out on things at this point, and yet... I am. It's literally unthinkable to me that you would take a job which needs more technical skill than aerospace assembly, and leave THAT to an untrained workforce.

Any 'savings' you might get by laying off the people who were qualified and rightfully asked for higher pay for their skills would quite frankly be burned through by one single mistake from a cheap untrained worker. I handle parts worth more than triple my yearly pay every single day in Aerospace. Even if you have very good insurance for your rocket parts, a few completely innocent mistakes by your workers is going to totally fuck up your finances.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Even if you have very good insurance for your rocket parts, a few completely innocent mistakes by your workers is going to totally fuck up your finances.

That doesn't even include being $1.6 Billion over budget on a project that is extremely public, with a competitor that received half the government funding you did, and completed their project years ago with over a dozen successful flights already? A project that may have just stranded its first two pilots in space on its first manned flight?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

cuts school funding further

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The man must HATE Boeing lately

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Dude has been at it since hes been at Ars lol. Not just "lately"

Do you think Berger can predict the future, or were there always signs that Boeing's space endeavours were struggling?

[–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...yes? Maybe I'm missing something. What difference does that make?

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

All of life's certainties:

  • The sun rises in the morning.
  • Paying taxes.
  • Humans succumbing to death.
  • Eric Berger hating on Boeing's space programs.
[–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But Boeing is objectively doing a pretty trash job. Hating on them is pretty well earned at this point.

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Im not disagreeing, but there is a noticeable lack of hate towards other space programs. Ive been reading his stuff for a long time now, and man oh man, does Boeing have a special place in his heart.

Maybe the other commercial space programs are doing better, or MAYBE they're being underreported on.

[–] Bangs42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

He definitely does hate on Boeing, but like I said, I think it's well deserved. For such an established giant in the industry, they have an awful lot of issues.

There's not much hate towards the newer companies, but to be fair newer companies will have new-company problems. Boeing should be long past this.

[–] llamacoffee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

4 days later dude. Eric Berger is inspiring the next generation of haters.

[–] llamacoffee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

1st paragraph:

NASA’s internal watchdog sharply criticized the work Boeing is doing on the next version of the Space Launch System, finding serious lapses in quality control.

They are reporting on an official report, not hating or spreading rumors/false information. Berger and Foust are two of the most respected space reporters in the world today.