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[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 78 points 2 months ago

zero sympathy. finally they get a dose of their own medicine.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fuck Putin and anyone that supports him.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 3 points 2 months ago

Fuck Putin and every Russian that doesn't actively oppose him

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Good. I hope there is a deep painful fear in their hearts.
Even though it is projection, it is their brutalized army that revels in committing atrocities as it invades. Fucking savages.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine decided to walk into Russia at a place where the border is not protected very well

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh no! What if Russia retaliates? /s

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

nukes intensify

Poland and Baltics roll eyes at the speed of sound

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My theory is they plan to flank the entire front line by going through Russian territory. Then use the occupied territory as leverage to get reparations from Russia, as well as a peace treaty obviously.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it. If I were in their position I'd just try to disrupt the supply of logistics to the front and do as much damage to the economy as possible. Once the oligarchs start suffering then they just get to sit back and watch the chaos. Doing a large push is needlessly risky. They have the advantage and the initiative, and they should take it, but there's no way they have the logistics to the rear to seriously push.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yes, destroy train lines, oil, gas, and petrol stations, loot and burn police stations, fortify highway overpasses so Russia has to bomb their own infrastructure or lose large amounts of men. Burn factories connected to rusdian war effort. All while infiltrating hundreds of saboteurs into the general population to instigate smoking accidents all across the federation.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking Ukraine is going to do a hostage swap Kursk Nuclear Power Plant for the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

[–] e_t_wright@union.place 2 points 2 months ago

@partial_accumen @Ilovethebomb That's a possibility. Only I'd make sure to 'liberate' some of the equipment first which you know good and well the Ruskies have done to theirs.

[–] e_t_wright@union.place 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@Ilovethebomb @LaFinlandia that or just plain walk into Moscow and St. Petersburg and tell Vladimir that they're running the place now. From what I can tell about the Russian economy, he's not doing a great job and they might go for that. Who knows. I don't pretend to understand Russian politics.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

While it's fun to dream, I think foreign troops advancing on Moscow is something that actually might get a nuclear response.

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

Time they get what they deserve. Sucks to suck Russia!

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hope this is part of a bigger plan and not some desperation move.

[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well if the current front lines are pretty entrenched, and it's hard to take back occupied Ukrainian land, then just go take unprotected Russian land to make it even. Didn't Putin say he was up for a truce if the current lines were kept? Let's see how he feels about that when he has to give up Russian land. At the very least it will force Russia to relocate troops and resources.

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that is what Im hoping. But to force troop relocation, you have to dig in which takes time or you have to blitz to Moscow like prigozin, which would really be madness, but it could work.

[–] Xanjis@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't need to dig in. Just destroy factories, electrical transformers, oil infrastructure, and train yards.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

Digging in actually makes sense. Russia has to attack, and then they’re sending meat waves to die for their own land, not ukrainian land.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anders' analysis makes sense and he's usually spot on. https://youtu.be/A4mg1ZUb-7s

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

Ah cool. I subscribe to the guy as well!

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s pretty serious if ukraine is holding the town. They can mob up to the west and create a true wedge, put artillery in range of kursk, and hopefully push east to dismantle russian defenses from behind. This is bad bad bad for russia.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russians seem willing to flatten Ukraine with artillery to capture things I wonder if they will be as willing to do that on their own territory

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

I believe I saw a story about a Russia state media person proposing using tactical nukes on their own territory. I don't think they actually would, but Russia may... Let the enemy group up in your own territory, and nuke it... other than humanitarian concerns for their own citizens, other countries ability to complain would be dulled if they were nuking their own internationally recognized territory.

Honestly, probably a great tactic to act as a deterrent in future wars (such as with the US).

I've caved by the end of this message... no sane person would, but I wouldn't call Russia's current government sane.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago
[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More victims of Putin's war. I fell sorry for them, but I hope they understand who made it happen.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

What war? Oh, you mean the special military operation?

🤣

[–] TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Help a brother out. What is the significance of Lgov? There are likely soft targets all over Kursk. Is it a railway hub?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 months ago

It’s very deep into russian territory, which means russia had no blocking forces and they are advancing at a steady pace and consolidating ground. Until russia stands an army in the way, ukraine is moving at a fast pace, but probably not one that greatly exceeds their logistical abilities.