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[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

American taxpayer dollars get recycled into the pockets of the military industrial complex and it's investors. Death and destruction are America's primary exports

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Completely right.

When the U.S. gives military aid to Israel, the Israeli government is not putting that money in its pocket. The vast majority of the money that the U.S. allocates to Israel each year must be spent on American weapons.

The logic of this only works when companies that produce these weapons pockets the money and gives some it back to bribe politicians for deals like this and to cut their taxes.

They are taking billions of our tax money and giving it to companies in a loophole so the process isn't directly stealing from us.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Israel is also bribing our politicians. Our two-party political system is so corrupt it makes me sick to my stomach even thinking about it.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago

Tale as old as time

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US doesn't benefit, but a few privately owned corporations and a handful of already way too wealthy monsters benefit.

But since they own the US government, it doesn't really matter if the other 99.998% of people in the US, plus 100% of Palestinians suffer.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Calling Israel a democracy is stupid when it has Jim Crow style laws at best and apartheid at worst. They don’t let most Palestinians vote and keep them on bantustans.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

it has Jim Crow style laws at best and apartheid at worst.

But you repeat yourself.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

U.S. Politicians, especially on the right, will always support Israel because, even if they don't realize it, there's bigotry involved. Israel is the one country in the Middle East that's "like us" and not run by those scary swarthy Muslims. They don't love that it's run by Jews, but Jews are closer in their mind to "normal" than Muslims. Muslims, especially after 9/11, are no longer trustworthy to American politicians. It doesn't matter that 99.999% of them have no interest in attacking the U.S., they're all the enemy. And Israel, to them, is the lone light in fighting that enemy.

It's some sick shit that even plenty of them would realize was sick if they took two seconds to think about it. Which they don't.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Americans have to tell themselves that america and it's proxies "the good ones" because any sober assessment would shatter their world view and require them to stop doing all the evil shit that they do.

It's why those pathetic cowards leaving the DNC had to cover their ears rather than hear the names of their victims.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 6 points 1 month ago

They'll support Israel because the way we do it is another of the many infinite money hacks our MIC has created and entrenched deep into our politics. I really dislike this American trend to racialize the conflict. In virtually every way, Palestinians and Israelis, and Jews in general for that matter, are pretty indistinguishable but for small differences in otherwise very similar ethnic and religious cultures. Jewish culture, even across the diaspora, has been pretty clearly a Levantine originating one forever (not to mention the far deeper similarities between Judaism as a religion and Islam than between either and Christianity).

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Which are the benfits? Please as a non American western i fail to understand how "having an ally" in the area (as israel is the only viable option) benefits américa in anyway

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

When the U.S. gives military aid to Israel, the Israeli government is not putting that money in its pocket. The vast majority of the money that the U.S. allocates to Israel each year must be spent on American weapons. That is true, in general, for American military aid to other countries, such as Ukraine.

Those American weapons that Israel purchases are produced in factories across the U.S. So, many American lawmakers have an interest in sustaining that aid because that money ends up flowing into their own states and providing local jobs.

They use taxpayer money to give business to the defense contractors that they've invested in. It's a kickback, to themselves.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

It's laid out in the article under the heading "How does U.S. aid to Israel serve America’s national interests?"

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Military bases

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ever heard of oil

You could give the aid to ukraine and benefit the MIC just the same

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well Harris' campaign promise is that Americas going to have the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.

So, yeah the genocide will continue.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why are you leaving out the rest of the paragraph from that speech? She spent more time talking about the needs of Palestinians and working on an immediate ceasefire.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

When she says "ceasefire" she's talking about finding ways to make docile liberals okay with dragging this whole genocide out longer. Harris could stop it in a concrete way by halting all the bomb and missile shipments until they run out of ammo and have to come beg for more again. That then gives you leverage to say "stop indescriminantly murdering civilians, r*ping prisoners, and assassinating the person you're supposed to be negotiating with"

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[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

President Biden and Vice President Harris believe a strong, secure, and democratic Israel is vital to the interests of the United States. Their commitment to Israel’s security, its qualitative military edge, its right to defend itself, and the 2016 Memorandum of Understanding is ironclad.

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obviously not, Palestinians need some American freedom..

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Look, I'm not saying an independent Palestine would be perfect...

... but has PALESTINE ever attacked an American ship, unprovoked, killing dozens of servicemen?

Just sayin', maybe we're putting our influence behind the less reliable party to have as an ally...

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Gotta supply the settler colony with weapons for its ethnic cleansing campaign

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

US is evil, yes, we've known

Edit: USA government, to be clear, not the citizens broadly

Oh well if we're benefiting from the genocide then alright. /s

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