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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 years ago
[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago

You can't have 1st and 2nd without the 3rd kind

[-] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the comic is about types of published articles with the 3rd being "we collated and collected a bunch of data to make this database that other researchers will find useful"-type papers. So you don't need to rely on the map of every tree if you just map some trees yourself.

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago
[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

How do you make theories without observation?

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

#3 is not about making observations in general but about making a map of every tree. This is a common mistake of scientists, wanting to have a complete set of data on their topic. I myself have to remind myself of this as well when designing projects. But in reality you cannot make a map of every tree and even if you could, what's it worth? You need abstractions to understand anything and models are just that. To design a good research study you need to balance how many observations are necessary vs how much effort they take.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I feel like it's just useful for different use cases. You don't need to start with making a map of all trees everytime but it certainly would be handy if someone else had compiled a map of all / most trees for reference.

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

It just isn't feasible. But maybe this is my ecological background speaking. Because, sure, if I'd look at different branches of science, it might be doable and also useful. But if you look at ecology (and making a map of every tree is ecology) then this just isn't useful enough for a task that is basically impossible to achieve. That's why in ecological research there are some standard sampling methods, like plots, transects, etc. Within these, you could do a map of all the trees if necessary. But these will be only a fraction of the whole system you look at.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

We have made some amazing discoveries with full-sky maps and analysis of the CMB. The human genome project has also yeilded a wealth of discoveries.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I like the way it kinda works regardless of if the punchline is about biological or computer science trees

[-] azi@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Don't forget ethnographers and the surname Tree

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The map from the third is the "circumstances" of the first two. Or the "results". First two just theorists, I guess.

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