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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/wahchewie on 2024-08-29 14:44:57+00:00.


For some reason I felt compelled to spend 3 hours reading, googling, and checking some things with U/PositiveSong2293 's post here

I was absolutely fascinated to see an attempt at a proper study, and I've made the asessment that many people want to know the details, but are not going to want to spend hours reading and sifting through it. This is by no means perfect, but i want to give some of you more curious people the breakdown.

Just before this - about me. I am not an authority on anything in particular. I'll just give for context - i work with electrical drawings, repairs and machines, my career has made me fairly logical, because if something is incorrect and not factual, the machine doesn't care and goes boom. This tends to happen when people tell me bullshit stories to try and avoid paying. So I do a lot of dealing with liars and then have to often investigate what actually happened. So, in summary, just a normal bloke, Interested in truth and not in lies, and capable of a sprinkle of critical thinking when neccesary. I am humbly not an authority, but i think this summary is better than nothing for the time poor.


The study was done by two brothers that are clearly "enthusiasts" of the UAP subject. The website this paper was posted on, does not mean it is factual, and several redditors have said the site is suspect. Basically you pay, and it goes up there. It has NOT been pier reviewed, and several people already have issues with the language used in this paper.

That being said, forgiving the language used, looking at the understanding of their equipment, the mathematical formulas, and how they have custom assembled and modified a radar, sensors, and a robotic vehicle, these guys are **Smart** and i have found myself being impressed by their resourcefulness.

Firstly, They worked from inside a modified RV of which no specifics were given as to how it was kitted out. However there is a picture of what i suspect to be the RV in section 4 of the document, and there has been at least 5 pieces of equipment mounted to the roof.

They heavily modified a 3cm radar- these are a microwave radar between 18 & 27ghz ,can be used for weather and ATC, they did not specify which type they used,except that it was a highly modified Marine ( boat) radar. From the notes,it may have been a "lowrance-lc-x-16-ci-sonar-gps-2" which are 20 years old and designed for finding fish.. That being said, they reported they were able to detect Airliners just fine with it.

The team was actually granted a experimental license from the FCC to use their radar. Apparantly you cant just beam your radar into the air bro :)

Multispectral cameras was used, these are later down identified as a Sony IMX 462, Starvis low light planetary cameras, and a OTS-4T Thermal Imaging Camera. From some googling, some of this stuff is really cheap, some of it is very expensive. The thermal camera is approx $1400 USD

They modified a robot called a "Nightcrawler" which is an expensive little 4 wheeled remote control vehicle essentially. They mounted their sensing equipment on this and controlled it from inside the RV.

Here comes their sightings.

First claims were of "spheroids, ovaloids and cylinderoids" The wording is unusual, spheroid means flattened sphere, like a traditional saucer but ovaloid and cylinderoid are... not really words - this is a small red flag to me as it indicates the author is not being unbiased with his report- IE this is the kind of language a "hardcore believer" would use. Its a Sphere, or a saucer. Not a Spheroid or an orb.

The author then kind of gets sidetracked referring to himself as an "engineer" in his own "landmark study" and that they "developed a cutting edge proto -type mobile laboratory vehicle"

Then there was an insightful note - a useful observation to keep in mind, that human beings are terrible at accurately understanding where an airborne object actually is. You think an object is directly above you - It is miles away. Radar position data suprised them sometimes with how poor human judgement is. They thought it was over them - it was over the water. Bear that in mind when someone does a write up saying " it was 300 feet in the air right over me!"

The nightcrawler was updated halfway through the study to include extra IR range, they have then stated basically that a lot more is happening outside of the human sight range that obviously we cant see without equipment. summary, these UAP's are visible in IR. It is suggested, that this may be deliberate, to prevent human observation.

On some rare occasions, they may display white, orange, blue or red lights. They're reported as approx 1.5 - 3m in diameter. Their behavior is reported as "random, indifferent, and purposeless" which is fascinating.

More unnervingly, they were also reported as rising out of the ground, sitting on top of the water, or going underneath the water with no interaction. A statement was made that on rare occasions? The objects appeared to be aware of the author sometimes. He did not elaborate further which is quite frustrating.

They've reported across several different objects they determined to be unknown, that they emitted 1.79GHZ and 4.066 GHZ signals in electrical/magnetic fields. how they determined this and with what equipment i am not sure. This sounds a bit strange to me, as i Dont believe you can purchase a camera that can see Magnetic fields from miles away?

The author then goes into a bit of conjecture which I didn't like, about possible avation accidents caused by UFO's, and refers to other UAP incidents that are not factually verified. He then pumps his study a bit essentially saying "fund us for phase II"

There's then a final notes saying that ofen, they did not return on radar, and no heat signatures were detected. They're also noted as having an affinty for water.

The report then goes straight into woo and literally uses the word "shadow zone" and interdimensional theories, but this is supposed to be a scientific style paper and they were not there, nor did they have the equipment to go into this.

A final very important detail. At no point anywhere in this report are any photos of the alleged unknown objects provided. There are clear photos of airliners detected with their equipment, charts, references, all kinds of things. No UFOs. How typical.

There is some really interesting details in here that line up with other UFO encounters, that make it sound more legit but also could very easily be creative storytelling. and its a great story with a lot of modified electronics involved. but no evidence.

I was going to put in my 2c but honestly who cares, and this took 3 hours and i'm tired. You can cross reference what i've said with the link above. I hope this makes the paper a bit more digestible for some. Cheers. Chewie.

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