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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PyroIsSpai on 2024-08-30 18:06:28+00:00.


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Like many of us, I've been looking at this a few times a day this week to see what on Earth is happening. Here is the Luis Elizondo page:

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The prior conflict (detailed in my first link to my best understanding) was that some trolls and an organized "group of guerilla skeptics" had aggressively attempted to insert the label "conspiracy theorist" to Lue's article. This caused the disparaging label to populate to Google and other search results for most of a day, until a majority of Wikipedia administrators (like our "mods") shut it down, and a group of "regular" users began aggressively updating that article with new data that had been excluded. Because of this, we've learned a number of new "Lue things" that are extensively detailed in my last post.

Well, today has a whopper of an update apparently.

The United States Senate directly requested that Luis Elizondo be attached to AATIP in 2009.

You can't make this shit up.

That letter has been in the public record since at least 2020. This is NOT the letter that "retired Senator Reid" sent in 2021. This is from ACTIVE sitting Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in 2009, who at the time sat on the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

Let me repeat:

The United States Senate directly requested that Luis Elizondo be attached to AATIP in 2009.

Read that letter here directly from Wikipedia:

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For good measure, because of other updates I see, we have courtesy of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission that Lue's title working in the Pentagon had been "Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff in the Office of the Secretary of Defense."

Y'all go tell Twitter, Coulthart, etc.

This seems to still be live on Wikipedia, for as long as the 'actors' involved allow it to stay up:

Luis Elizondo is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence special agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. Elizondo reports he was a director of the now defunct Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), which is associated with the Pentagon UFO videos. Since 2017, he has been known for asserting that UFOs (or UAPs) exist and are not the result of human technology.

In a June 2009 letter to then United States Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn III, then United States Senator Harry Reid of Nevada discussed requirements for personnel to be attached to AATIP under a security clearance BIGOT list, including then Special Agent Luis Elizondo, USDI.[1] Reid again confirmed Elizondo held the post in a 2021 letter.[2] Elizondo's assertions have been contested by both reporters and Pentagon officials.[3][4] Elizondo has subsequently appeared in various media, including 60 Minutes, as a UFO expert.[5]

All this evidence, just sitting right there, but excluded from this article for years.

Y'all go tell Twitter, Coulthart, etc. Share this.

Is this a smoking gun?

All the people who have now confirmed Lue Elizondo was a major figure at AATIP:

Senator Reid twice; Pentagon spokespeople twice; journalists Keith Kloor (a STAUNCH critic of Elizondo), Leslie Kean, Lewis-Krause, Bender, Helene Cooper (NY Times)...

How many people need to confirm Elizondo was a major figure at AATIP before its settled?

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