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Primer: I’ve been extremely interested in this subject since I was a child. I’m not the kind of person to judge anyone without giving them a fair chance and I’m certainly not a bot or a shill, despite what some may think once they’ve read this entire post.

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Elizondo’s book was entertaining and I am thankful that he has shared his story with us. He comes across as a kind and thoughtful person that wants answers. I fully accept that he has seen things that I haven’t and talked to people that I will never talk to.

However, having completed his book I don’t feel like I’ve learned anything new about this subject, nor am I more convinced that UFOs are alien/inter-dimensional in nature. In fact, in many ways I’m now less convinced.

When Luis Elizondo first came on the scene he appeared to be a ‘nuts and bolts’ guy that was quite different from Puthoff, Bigelow and DeLonge. However, as time progressed it became clear that he was just as given to speculation as they are, and his book pretty much confirms this. Remote viewing, home-invading orbs, self aware alien implants, etc., it feels like Luis has just gone all-in UFO lore!

So much of his book is speculative and anecdotal in nature. It’s entertaining and thought provoking, but so is the Mysterious Universe podcast, which is also based on speculation and anecdotes. This makes me nervous about Grusch. At the beginning Grusch also seemed like a nuts and bolts kind of person, but with each new YouTube interview it became apparent that he also enjoyed to speculate and seemed to be quite swayed by purely anecdotal evidence of others.

Is that all this subject is, just speculation and counter speculation? Perhaps that’s why people don’t take this subject that seriously? Some might say, “we have radar data and physical evidence!”, but *we* don’t. All we have are anecdotes, photos and videos, none of which are absolute proof of alien visitation.

Anyway, I thought I’d share my personal thoughts. How do you all feel after reading Elizondo’s book?

Edit: Just adding this to clarify my position: I certainly did not expect “all the answers”. However, I did think that someone with his position (literally the perfect person to have answers!) and reputation would provide something new.

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