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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 220 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This would be genuinely hilarious if it wasn’t so goddamn serious for so many indoctrinated folks.

So let me get this straight: she’s black, she’s south Asian, she’s a woman, she’s married to a Jew, and she’s a witch? I think I like her even more now…

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope she leans into it for halloween.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

She should have Bambi Thug as a guest on her next rally.

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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 135 points 2 months ago (5 children)

To be fair, any technology you don't understand can be mistaken for magic. In this case that technology is coherence.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

God damn, I should have worn sun screen, I didn't expect that hot of a burn!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

The full quote is

Any SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCED technology can not be distinguished from magic.

Personally, I prefer to say technology that can be distinguished from magic is not sufficiently advanced.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 106 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I originally wasn't going to vote for Kamala since she was a cop, but now that I know she's a witch I've changed my mind.

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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tax the churches! They are political Propaganda arms of the Republican party.

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[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago

"She knew she could speak 20 lies about Trump and not be contradicted. That was the arrangement," he wrote in a second post. "And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

He's describing Trump and his cult. It really is projection lol.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 57 points 2 months ago

What a weirdo.

Didn't this pastor get the memo, witches and Wicca are cool now.

[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pastor defends his antichrist.

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[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

WHICH IS TOTALLY LEGAL BY THE WAY

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If Trump's really the Messiah as this moron believes, shouldn't he be immune to Devil Magic?

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[–] tetrachromacy@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That wasn't witchcraft! What she did was Headology, plain and simple. Far more efficient. All you have to do is make the recipient understand that the lies they tell themselves in the dark corners of their mind are flimsy untruths that everyone can see through.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It's only a shame she didn't make him think he was a frog.

But then, Trump is really already kind of a toad.

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So, Trump is "God's Chosen" and has divine backing. But despite God being on his side, a little witchcraft can completely overpower him. I would have thought God's power would be stronger than whatever dark sorcery the Demoncraft party could invoke, but apparently I was wrong.

Yeah, it must be that. It can't be that their orange messiah is just an elderly narcissist with no discipline or self-awareness, a rambling imbecile who can be easily manipulated by anyone that threatens his fragile ego. That would be crazy.

Obviously it must be God's will that Trump become President again, why else would He have told a small minority of believers to follow some rich asshole who embodies all of their most extreme political views? I mean, if he wasn't specifically chosen by God, he wouldn't have a divine mandate that negates the need to be moral or abide by any of that "love your neighbor" shit, and his deeply religious followers would have to choose between their faith and owning the libs.

Since they don't feel bad about their politics overriding the teachings of Jesus, it must be OK, which means it has God's blessing. Therefore, God is on their side and endorses their political views, and their preferred presidential candidate. Which also means that the other side must be working for the devil.

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What happened to their defensive prayers?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sadly they may have made things worse.

The problem is, when you open yourself up to spiritual forces anything can come through that door... Including your own paranoia... Which is more often attacking you more than demons are.

There was actually this cult, it's still around today, but is so small time it's virtually extinct, called Christian Science. It was not a league of Scientists who were Christians, it wasn't Science at all, it wasn't even Christian as it had more to do with shit on the level of Chris-Chan's Dimensional Merge than anything in the bible.

(Science was a newish term at the time, before they used to call what we call Science "Natural Philosophy", so calling their Group Christian Science was basically the olde timey version of when your Crazy Hippie Aunt watches New Age "Quantum Enlightenment" nonsense on Gaia)

At one point because the Church was grilling them about being called Christian but having nothing to do with the faith, the leader claimed she was the second coming of Jesus and that the powers Christian Science (doesn't really at all) gives you are the same ones Jesus had.

Later in life when her health started to fail, she stayed in a compound and got progressively worse... Because the fear that her "enemies" were "attacking her with Animal Magnetism!" was making her so paranoid that it was destroying her health.

She had live in members of her cult in constant meditation to shun away the sickness.

It got to the point where she'd claim her food was poisoned by "Evil Vibes", resulting in the Chefs having to cook two versions of the same meal in order to get her to eat. One that looked "eh", for her to say it was poisoned, and another that looked fresher to be "After the food was cleansed with psychic powers", if they didn't do this little LARP session of "psychically cleansing the food" and have the right props, she would not eat.

Basically claiming a defensive stance when there's no real threat is a bad idea in certain cases, because the result is you getting so prepared for an attack that you're tense and believe the attacker is everywhere.

But not being defensive at all leaves you open.

Balance in all things.

Before I go, my favorite funfact about Christian Science is the founder of it was a woman who practiced Homeopathy and Phrenology to understand her own illnesses (Likely just hypochondria if history is to be believed), which at the time were considered legitimate forms of medical practice....

But that's not the funfact

And neither is the fact that Homeopathy was highly praised at the time because REAL Medicine was so poor it actually caused more problems than it solved. So because people didn't know any better, it was believed Homeopathy was "The biggest game in town", even though today we realize Homeopathy literally doesn't do anything at all. (Yes, No Medicine was better than Any Medicine at one opint)

What IS the funfact, is after various alleged religious visions, Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of Christian Science, while treating a patient of hers withheld Homeopathic Medicine in place of sugar pills... and her patient got better anyway.

Instead of coming to the conclusion that Homeopathy is an absolute sham, she believed she had successfully and secretly taught a man to cure himself with magical science....

She was so close to a groundbreaking discovery, just not the one she walked away with. It'd be hilarious if Christian Science wasn't responsible for murdering so many children through intentional neglect.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

where can I get my pointy hat that says "witches for Kamala"

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Slightly more plausible than Bluetooth eatings where she had a full team of writers instantly coming up with her responses, all agreeing on it, and relating it to her with zero delay...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The bluetooth one is crazy because have you ever tried to talk while you have a voice rambling in your ear?

It's not easy to focus.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, a lot of scam preachers have infamously done just that. What makes it unrealistic is the practical range for Bluetooth. And even if they figured that out, since they were not inside her ears canals they'd be effectively speakers which the mic would catch.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Even then, like, am I the only person who isn't against candidates having an earpiece and a team helping them? When do you ever think the POTUS is alone and making split-second decisions? They'll always have an advisor or some type of council around them.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

This is supposed to be a presidential debate, not a president and team debate.

Also at the end of the day it's the president that makes the decisions, not the team. You're supposed to evaluate them, in part, on their decision making capability.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd support it for fact checking alone. Give them a researcher in their ear who can search the internet for reliable references. It would discourage bullshitting on both sides, and someone like Trump would be instantly shut down.

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[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Well, she did conjure up a can of whoopass

[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So she is a witch with no backup real except a few leftist woke idiots?
Trump on the other hand is chosen by god and has the whole country behind him...

And he says this one witch is stronger than god and all his followers? Alright, who is he rooting for? I don't get this. They never think about the implications of what they say, do they?

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

It's one of the core principles of fascism. The enemy is at once weak, feeble, and inferior yet simultaneously powerful, cunning, and insidious.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago

Such is the way with "magical thinking"

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did she turn you into a newt?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"She knew she could speak 20 lies about Trump and not be contradicted. That was the arrangement," he wrote in a second post. "And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

Holy projection, Batman

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what they say about women with knowledge.

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[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The witchcraft of facts and common sense.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

LITERALLY 1484

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine considering not voting for a witch who could literally fix the country with magic lol

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[–] AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What? Trump is so weak his plans can be foiled by simple witchcraft? I thought Trump big, the best stronk? /s

Face it, dude. Trump is an easily manipulated idiot. Harris demonstrated it live on TV.

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Hear me out now, what if she did?

What if Kamala's witchcraft is just being a good person?

Like, that's some amazing witchcraft.

[–] Skoobie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dude says its occult witchcraft and then goes on to define collusion and conspiracy. Like, that didn't happen either but those are what he's describing.

Also, just throwing it out there, if the pastor ever made a birthday wish before blowing out candles then that would be witchcraft. Spells are basically intentions combined with ritualistic actions in the hope of a stated outcome.

So yeah, Harris didn't commit witchcraft at the debate but every American does on their birthday. Fun fact 😛

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What fucking year is it in these people's minds? 1600?

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"And that's why I call it witchcraft, because it has the effect of planting and reinforcing thoughts in the mind of the listener that defiles perspective. This makes it easier to manipulate people."

Huh ...

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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember when they AId Harris as a demon and she the result looked hot as fuck

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so she’s a witch, but she isn't a hag, so we’re good.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

insert Geralt of Rivia grunt

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

So we have a choice between a president with magic powers or a president who gibbers nonsense while wearing a diaper filled with yellow hamburder shit. Not a hard decision to make, really.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I can confirm. Precisely a week before the debate, I got a lock of Trump's hair in the mail and a letter from Kamala that said "you know what to do"

You're all welcome

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