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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @dirtmayor@beehaw.org):

other media coverage:

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[–] Fox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's disappointing that Reddit has chosen to prioritize money after their success :(

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Money is the measure of success to a business. It's what they exist for, at least under capitalism.

They'll hold the very idea of community ransom. They'll do it in virtual spaces, and they'll do it in meatspaces. And they won't stop unless it's proven to be deeply unprofitable.

[–] Kaiser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s sad to see Reddit go down this path, but the writing has been on the wall for awhile now. Losing Apollo is what had me make the jump to Lemmy.

Hopefully we build a strong community here.

Edit: typo

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[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I read somewhere that the Infinity dev would just let us grab our own personal Reddit API keys and build the app from source.

If that is actually the case, we'd all individually be under the free limit. That is of course if Reddit gives out those API keys to everyone.

Obviously this solution would be challenging and the barrier to entry would be higher than just joining Lemmy or something. But it could be an option.

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AskHistorians and uncertainty surrounding the future of API access:

Putting into layman's terms what reddit is deleting. Also the number of false promises by Big Reddit, it's just crazy.

[–] x64@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Incredibly sad to see corporate greed takeover. It's only a matter of time until they remove the old interface. I will definitely stop using Reddit altogether on mobile. It'll be quite hard for me to stop using it on desktop, but I might just give it all up on June 30th.

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[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My concern is that communities on Lemmy are fractured by instance. You CAN read or subscribe to communities on any instance, but communities with the same topics (or even the same names!) on different instances are in no way connected. For example, there can be a community called "Books" on every instance, but if you subscribe to one you will NOT see posts in any of the other Books communities on other instances. You'd have to go out, specifically find each one of them, and subscribe to them separately.

Not to mention communities with different names, but that cover the same essential topic. For example, I'm subscribed to the "Literature" community here. It's nice. But it's entirely disconnected from any of the "Books" communities on other instances. I'm not sure how that sort of fracturing could be addressed. I understand that there's a plan to eventually allow "MultiReddit" style aggregating, allowing users to group a number of communities into a single reading group, but that would only apply to what that individual user would read. No one else would have the benefit of seeing all the posts from those communities in a single group unless they individually recreated that collection.

What might work would be to bake in a set of standard all-instance communities which would automatically merge the content from all instances for those topics for all users. But I'm not sure that would work, since not all instances have to federate with all other instances.

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I don’t think of that as a negative. It’s a different structure than Reddit.

Each instance would be a community in the cultural sense. All of the Lemmy communities within that instance would be a place for primarily the same instance users to gather. Each instance having its own cultural identity. Decentralized.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I agree. On reddit, there are a bazillion different "gaming" subreddits that are only named different because that's the only way to have different communities around the same topic: r/gaming, r/games, r/truegaming, r/patientgamers, r/girlgamers, r/transgamers, r/gaymers, and so on.

Each of those communities has a different feel and different moderation and different priorities, and no way no how would I want r/gaming posts mixed in if I'm trying to browse r/transgamers, for example.

Similarly, I'm mostly sticking to Lemmy instances that disable the downvote button, because it makes for friendly places I think, and lowers the barrier to posting for socially anxious users.

I like the idea of there being a way for users, or for similar groups of instances that agree to it (like if beehaw and an instance with similar rules/community feel wanted to collaborate a bit), to set up a multi-lemmy 'all' community thing that shows posts across similar communities, but it should still be optional.

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[–] knova@links.dartboard.social 12 points 1 year ago

I suspect a multi-reddit type functionality will be developed at some point which could partially mitigate the concern.

But besides that, I think we’ll find sites develop around a common interest, and they will each be the “big player” for that topic. LemmyBooks.org for example (not a real instance AFAIK) could be the leading book themed instance; you could still grab their content even though your account is on LemmyMusic.com

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[–] dirtmayor@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago
[–] zerkrazus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope this bullshit kills their site. Monetization is necessary in some ways, but this is just pure greed.

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[–] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Time to get my popcorn ready! (First post from my instance).

[–] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We were given a sort of a survey in the Joey app asking what's the max we're willing to pay monthly for a subscription. I haven't seen any post from the dev yet. But I'm pessimistic it'll continue since it seems from reddit comments that Joey users are in the minority. I doubt even a subscription fee for its users can save it.

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