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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 179 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Specifying a 'racist conservative' is redundant.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We just got the Canadian Future Party, and even though I'm pretty left leaning (both financially and socially), it gives me some faith for conservatives here.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 63 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Woke basically applies to the bigots just realizing and getting worked up by things that had existed for decades. Either they've been dozing off for decades or have been "woken" up to it by propaganda with political undertones, and neither speaks highly of their mental faculties.

Although the thing about The Elder Scrolls in general is that it doesn't hand hold you, so you are free to be a racist bigot and not realize it. They don't force realization onto the player, you can happily adopt and become a tool of the point they are trying to criticize, you can willfully remain as ignorant as you would be in real life. In contrast to Starfield, where all companions are like the borg, of one mind telling you or nudging you into what you should have actually done.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Small correction but pelinal was a time traveling cyborg, but being gay is close

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

According to MK, he was written to be gay, but higher-ups had him make his relationship with Huna ambiguous.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Huna dies at the hands of the Ayleids

Pelinal goes on what is arguably the greatest slaughter ever perpetrated by one single being in the full history of the gd universe, culminating in not just the overthrow but freaking extinction of the Ayleid race

"They were just good friends"

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

Achilles and Patroclus: "That's our boy"

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

History will say they were roommates

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But how many times and on how many platforms?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

All of them

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Todd Howard wants to know your location

[–] omega_x3@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What about a politician who sexually harasses an employee and making that employee read their erotic interspecies fan fiction.

[–] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Hey, don't talk shit about The Lusty Argonian Maid, it's a classic!

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't all Daedric Prince genderless? They just assume the form they like, some are just a pile of tentacle.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In a literal sense, yes. But they present themselves as male or female usually. So it's still appropriate to refer to Boethia as "genderfluid" because they send to switch it up.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I guess that makes most of them gendered but sexless? I mean, sexless in a biological sense, particularly given that they're not biological beings, but it's also funny to imply that Vaermina simply never gets laid

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 15 points 3 months ago (8 children)

They're literally all-powerful gods that reign over their own worlds that are quite possibly the same size as, if not bigger than Nirn. They don't play by our rules. I don't think we can apply our conventions of sex and biology to them lol.

As I said: they can be whatever the fuck they want.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Somebody has been hitting the moon sugar a little too hard.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Morrowind is a basically the thesis of Things Fall Apart in video game form, with a good deal of Dune. It’s an examination of colonialism. Every detail of that game is dripping with politics. The Dunmer are racist and engage in horrific chattel slavery - but does that mean it is right for the Empire to colonize them and take their resources? There’s substantial evidence that your character is a spook sent to “fulfill” an indigenous prophecy to tighten the Empire’s control - is that morally right?

There’s also a hermaphrodite male presenting god who has had hundreds of children with something quite close to the Devil.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 3 months ago

Good, now make it gayer!

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

Bro, same for Star Trek

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Let's hear it for badly written caricatures of racists that are so over-the-top that they allow real racists to say to themselves "I'm not actually a racist, because I'm not extreme as this flimsy caricature of a racist, which is what racists are really like."

I hate the idea that we have to write more well-developed racists just to get racists to recognize that they're, you know, fucking racist, but god damn it, it needs to happen. Skryim is just one of many offenders, video games alone are just one of many offenders as well. Really its the whole US media landscape that has nothing but flimsy, weak caricatures of racists. I personally think these weak caricatures are part and parcel to why it's hard to get racists to have self-reflection because we're not actually doing the hard work of writing realistic racist characters who don't start so extreme. Becoming a virulently violent racist takes time and doesn't happen overnight, and those events that lead to it fall under the umbrella of what's often called "character development."

/end unrelated rant

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Write a well rounded racist character and you get racists rooting for that character. Racists will never self reflect when they see a well written racist character. It’s like how there are men who don’t see that the characters in Fight Club and Joker are bad people, and rather see themselves in them.

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[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

Worth noting that whenever the subject comes up, people will defend the Stormcloaks, praising Ulfric's fight for the province's right to self-govern and-

Wait.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In short, exactly how it was and how it should be.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I miss the time when people realized that fiction, even if possibly metaphoric, is ultimately not real.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Dagoth Ur is woke as fuck and he will awaken all you sleepers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In RL Vivek is the racist one.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)
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