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I've decided (after seeing the advice repeatedly!) to try and move away from Chrome and use FF instead. However I've immediately come across an issue which is a bit of a deal-breaker for me, and although I've looked into it, I haven't seen an answer anywhere.

One of the best features in Chrome is the abilty to create a shortcut for an individual URL. This shortcut can then be placed on the desktop, start menu or quicklaunch toolbar (Win 10) and opened as if it were a program in its own right - so, no URL bar, no tabs, no bookmarks, just the site content.

I use this method every day for a number of different sites - Outlook, Gmail, Calendar, Keep, Sheets, Docs, etc, and it's perfect. So much so that I usually forget that I'm technically opening all of these in Chrome at all, not least because the site favicon shows in the taskbar in place of the browser logo.

So, I assumed that FF would be able to do the same thing... but apparently not. Am I missing something? I've found people discussing old features like SSB (site-specific browsing) and PWA (progressive web apps), but as far as I can tell all work on this in FF has been discontinued.

I would maybe just put up with this, and use Chrome shortcuts for these sites, and FF for everything else, except that links clicked from within them will open in Chrome intead of FF, which makes for a confusing experience.

Anyone know of a good solution to this? Thanks in advance!

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[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not currently supported but it looks they they are actively scoping the feature with the intention of implementing it soon.

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/how-can-firefox-create-the-best-support-for-web-apps-on-the/m-p/60561#U60561

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh wow, that's great, I didn't realise it was back on the agenda - thanks a lot! πŸ‘

That said, I found this line a bit surprising: "it’s not a goal to make it feel like you’re not in Firefox."

That's a shame, because being able to have a website run as if I'm not in a browser is exactly what I want to achieve! Still though, at least they're looking at the concept.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

The loss of built-in PWA support was the biggest disappointment I had when switching from Chrome to Firefox, with the add-on solutions I tried having one problem or another in replicating my goal of making opening a handful of websites I had set to be PWAs look as much like regular applications as possible. While I wouldn't switch back to Chrome in a second, and am still trying to get the rest of my family to make the switch, there's a number of things Firefox needs to implement to remove the remaining roadblocks for people looking to make the switch away from Chrome or another Chromium browser.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't personally use this feature, so I don't honestly know if this would solve your problem, but there's a firefox addon that might add the functionality you're wanting.

If it doesn't, then this issue

except that links clicked from within them will open in Chrome intead of FF, which makes for a confusing experience.

could possibly be solved with a chrome extension

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Oh wow - that add-on does look like exactly what I need. Will need to look into it a bit further, not least because of possible security issues, but thanks, that's a really good lead! Appreciate it :-)

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

I use PWAs for Firefox and they work ok, although I don't have the issue you mention. For me, in Ubuntu, if I open a link in a PWA for Google Chat, then the link opens in the PWA firefox window, not my main browser window. Maybe there's a setting I missed?

Also, the PWA acts like a separate browser, so opening Google Chat requires you to log in again to Google on the same machine. And if you open up a paywalled link, and it opens in the PWA, then you have to log in, even if you're logged in in Firefox.

Overall 5/7 rating on usability, but did allow me to get completely off of Chrome

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

In mobile FF, yes, it works natively. The "Add to home screen" works the same as it does in Chrome. Later versions, or at least Fennec, will open them as "apps" even if they don't have a PWA manifest.

On desktop, lack of PWA support in FF continues to be a thorn in my side as well. I've resorted to using Web App Manager which is part of Linux Mint (you can install it on any distro, though. I've got it working fine in Debian Bookworm).

https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/01/install-linux-mints-web-app-manager-ubuntu-20-04/

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Ah, thanks very much - but I'm only just dipping my toe into moving to FF, so I probably won't be moving from Windows to Linux anytime soon! ;-)

Appreciate the advice though, cheers.