Will be super interesting to see him try that under oath...
this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2023
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His lawyers actually said that while he was president. They said he was incapable of being deposed without perjuring himself. Eventually they sent 10 questions written out and he had his lawyers with him to help respond.
They said he was incapable of being deposed without perjuring himself.
"Perjury trap" is a fake term that tries to place the blame for "My client is a compulsive liar and literally can't tell the truth to save his life" on the other party. And whoever came up with the term deserves both a raise for being amazing at their job, and a knee to the groin for being a shit human being.
And whoever came up with the term deserves both a raise for being amazing at their job, and a knee to the groin for being a shit human being.
So, a lawyer.
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I cannot imagine the guy speaking a single word in court.
I can def see a man-child reaction exactly like this dumb statement -kinda like what he did on the debates with Hillary and Biden, interrupting and interjecting his sad alternate reality- as the cases pick up steam and hes forced to fly between Fla, DC, Ga and wherever his current cult rally/grievance is that day, oh boy, is it gonna be fun or what?
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It seems like he is showing what his defense will be. It won't be whether he moved documents or shared confidential information or whatever. It will be them challenging the scope of power of the presidency.
The defense comes down to the Afluenza Defense. Note, to my knowledge that never really worked before.
He keeps repeating he thinks he's allowed to do all these things and even when found in court he isn't allowed to do those things, they'll try to say he didn't know.
Thing is, he's playing dumb now, while he's repeatedly shown he knows full well what's right and what's wrong, his statements like how he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and no one would do anything about it, or the grab em by the pussy line.
He made statements showing he knows perfectly fine these are things one shouldn't do, but he does them anyway as he was never held responsible and could get away with it.
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Not really the scope of power so much as destroying Trump's delusional interpretation of the Presidential Record's Act.
If he honestly tries that in court he's going to get "Um, actually" lawyer-splained so fast BARRON'S kid's heads will spin.
It would make for a much shorter trial, at least. Basically just a guilty plea with extra steps.
I like a petulant Trump. Means he's worried.
He's always been petulant though.
Which makes sense given his constant state of anxiety about whatever demographic, real or imagined, is supposedly after him for no good reason next.
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He can in fact do whatever he wants, he just needs to deal with the consequences of his actions.
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Candidate Trump needs to be belligerent and defiant. Defendant Trump needs to STFU.
The problem is those two things are in competition. So he has to say, Russia, Russia, Russia as candidate Trump, but that isn't a relevant or useful argument for defendant Trump. He has to say, "I'm allowed to do this thing" as candidate Trump, but as defendant Trump, I'm allowed to break the law is not a defense.
His only hope is to delay. If he goes to trial on anything, defendant Trump loses. If he can hold out, then candidate Trump will win.
This is his bet. He wins and it all goes away and the US is ruled by a guy who believes he can get away with anything.
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No you are not. It is classified for a reason.
American government: ‘No, you’re not.’
Holy shit I hate this man so much.
I will die not understanding the allegiance this man has among his followers.
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He's right until they prove him wrong.
There's literal audio recording of him acknowledging that he's fully aware he can't do whatever he wants with classified files.
As usual he's right until he proves himself wrong then claims he's right again.
He's aware that it's illegal, but until there are consequences, whether something is illegal or not means fuck all.
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he's allowed to do whatever he wants with whatever and whoever he wants whenever he wants or why else is he the king
Okay.
Catch is… I- and everyone else- get to do what ever we want to him
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Do they still manufacture torches and pitchforks?
….aT which point his lawyer jumped in and said the the real trump would never say that .. fake fake prank call don’t ever call here again!!
That all sounds to me like he's not trying to defend himself in court, that instead his entire plan is to win the presidency and stay there for life. All of these claims (I can do the thing, it's totally fine believe me) amount to confessions that he did what he's charged with, but are also appeals to his base that the courts are wrong and illegitimate.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Donald Trump said he “absolutely” plans to testify in the federal government’s case against him regarding classified documents he removed from the White House.
In an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” that dropped Wednesday, the host asked Trump, “Did you direct anyone to move the boxes, Mr. President?
I come under the Presidential Records Act,” Trump replied, while also taking a quick detour to bash Hewitt.
The law states: “Upon the conclusion of a President’s term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President.” There is an allowance for presidents to keep records that are of “a purely private or nonpublic character” and unrelated to presidential duties, but many of the documents Trump was found to possess came from government agencies, such as the C.I.A.
When Hewitt asked Trump if he would testify in his own defense at the trial in the documents case, the former president said, “That, I would do.
In addition to discussing his legal troubles, Hewitt asked Trump for his thoughts on an unrelated topic: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.
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Chances that Donald Trump has read any of the Presidential Records Act, or understands what it is for: 0%
Chances that it says "Former presidents can just keep whatever they want, no biggie, what are you going to do, arrest them?": Also 0%.
He says a lot of shit Guarantee his lawyers won't let that happen.
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