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Judge Hehir said:

Your culpability is at level A. You did reconnaissance and planning and talked to a journalist. Your harm is at category 1, which means extreme harm to society.

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[โ€“] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

doing what I can to prevent countless millions of innocent people suffering and dying.

If you think that throwing soup at a painting is the best you can do, I guess there is not much gain here. No need to look at actual conservation efforts etc., even collecting rubbish helps, but that was too much of a hassle? Or not special enough?

[โ€“] setto@fed.dyne.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

who's to say they don't do all of that as well? I have no idea. Do you? What i know for sure is that there's no media in picking up rubbish, though i agree there should be.

Either way, i set the title the way i did on purpose, to me it's not so much about the value of the action in itself, rather about the absurdity in calling what they did a "Category 1 harm to society". If you think they are childish, then i suppose the lesson here is that childish stuff is category 1 harm to society.

[โ€“] zazo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, my reaction to all of this has been: why is it permissible for the 3 oil companies in a trench coat running and polluting the world and causing uncountable deaths and harm to humanity a "cost of doing business" - but two people throwing soup at a painting to raise awareness of that cartel is a "category 1 harm to society" that deserves years of prison time?

I know it's because of how modern legal systems are set up and the whole concept of corporations having personhood without a corporeal body to be imprisoned - but I still don't understand how people (even leftists on lemmy) see this is a personal moral failing of the protestors and not a systematic issue with the way we organize our state laws..

[โ€“] setto@fed.dyne.org 2 points 1 week ago

yes, well.. i personally wouldn't assume any political orientation based on platform preferences. as for the reaction, it doesn't surprisee me: it's part of the mainline narrative of young people being "foolish narcissistic clicktvists acting out for social media klout". Which i personally don't belive in. In some cases it might even be rooted in frustration arrising from the lack of attention brought upon other, perhaps more elaborate and constructive, ways to tackle the issue.

There might be better ways, i'm no judge of that, but the one rmployed by this young people for sure enables discussions and exchange, which are not always positive maybe, but the world of ideas is a pot that requires to be stirred up.