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"But there was only one question on which the vice presidency—the job for which these two men are competing—really matters. That question was whether they would certify the results of the next presidential election. And on that subject, Vance gave a non-answer that instantly disqualifies him: He refused to acknowledge that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.”

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TL/DR from the article: "In short, Vance made it clear that he believed 1) Congress could second-guess and override election results submitted by states; 2) politicians, not judges, should decide these matters; and 3) any scheme could be rendered presumptively constitutional by inventing a new interpretation of the Constitution. As a Yale Law grad, he surely knows better."

No question in my mind. Trump / Vance are still trying to overthrow the US government. Most of the GOP supports their efforts. January 6th was just the beginning.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

It's not a democracy if the results of elections are decided by the party in government. That's how sham elections work in dictatorships.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"That's a damning non-answer" -Walz

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did Walz say that? If so, I'm sorry I missed it!

I had to switch to something else in order to not get stressed out.

[–] NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Vance continues to shit his pants

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Vance dismissed the argument that courts had already rejected Trump’s allegations of election fraud. “You can’t litigate these things judicially; you have to litigate them politically,” Vance told Douthat. “And we never had a real political debate about the 2020 election.”

It feels we have done both of these things every single day since that damn election....

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's crazy to argue that the result of a dispute about objective numbers between two biased parties should be decided not by a third party, the courts, but by the politicians from those two parties.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It is entertaining to see that even with all Mitch McConnell's stolen court picks, they still can't even win any cases pertaining to the election.

I'm not secure in thinking it will pass another go around though. I hope this election is pretty decisive.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The party of law and order says we can’t let the courts decide these things. Color me shocked.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Q: Would you have certified the election results had you been vice president?
Vance: If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors. And I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there.

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