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Saw this gem today and it reminded me of this post
What an utterly bizarre view they have.
It’s a shame they lack the critical thinking to realize they lack critical thinking
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Everytime I have a discussion with someone who says “both sides are the same”, they always end up voting right. I ask if both sides are the same why not vote left?
I don't think that "both sides are the same", but there is a Venn Diagram of shared interests under the two party system; the overlap is fairly large (e.g., both parties are susceptible to lobbying, both parties fight to maintain first past the post voting, etc.)
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It's so funny to see Alex Jones present himself as above left-right politics despite constantly spewing far right BS.
I've had a guy tell me he votes for Trump because he's trying to take a balanced centrist view of things. But dude, if Trump is the center, wtf are your extremes?
Homie just heard a bunch of words online and attempted to string them together into a coherent political opinion. They failed, but hey they tried.
It's weird how often people say they "Aren't for Right or the Left" and "Think BOTH parties are the problem", but only ever have negative things to say about the Left.
Concern Trolls are not your friends
It betrays a deep level of self-awareness of being on the "bad" side and knowing that if you say your actual values around a large number of normal people you will face criticism and attacks, so it's shame. Centerism is almost always some level of shame, or at best woefully immature ignorance of actual politics.
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Let's just start with the fact that American political system is super skewed to begin with and no actual left has any power.
Dems are highly pro-capitalist, moderately nationalist and merely call to strike a bit less horrible balance between the interests of people and businesses. This is not left, this is a bit better right.
This fallacy keeps people trapped in an idea that the only possible options are "good" ultra-capitalism and "greedy" ultra-capitalism, which is not true.
People that try to have "both sides heard" totally ignore that there are way more than two angles in this conversation and that Dems are not some sort of a political extreme. Reps, ironically, kinda are.
And Democrats often think they vote for something actually good, when it's actually just a lesser evil. Keep that in mind, no matter what you decide.
And Democrats often think they vote for something actually good, when it’s actually just a lesser evil. Keep that in mind, no matter what you decide.
well i mean to be clear, not voting for a literal fascist, is a pretty good vote.
Anyone claiming to be undecided on Trump and the GOP in 2024 is full of shit.
I'm undecided on Trump and the GOP in 2024, I can't tell if they're brutally evil or evilly brutal.
I'm a centrist. I say they're brutally evil AND evilly brutal, and I would even add the hot-take as an ENLIGHTENED centrist that they're probably also stupid.
I am a centrist as well and therefore usually undecided. But these rights make it really easy to decide who not to be undecided about.
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Oh this is the classic : "I'm socially progressive, but fiscally conservative" LOL
"I want to smoke weed and not pay taxes and I lack basic empathy for anyone with problems worse than my own."
The thing is real fiscal conservatism relies on evidence. They just want to sell off the government so they can make a profit replacing it. A real fiscal conservative would have already passed universal education, universal healthcare, universal background checks, taken military procurement to task, and repealed half of the laws restricting unions.
The Republicans talk about laws that spend less and create more revenue, but they fight tooth and nail against ones that actually would do that.
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It's because they identify 100% with the party but don't want the negative flack it rightfully deserves, so they pretend to be centrist.
This is prominent in the online dating scene. ‘Why don’t women like total dickhead conservatives, derrp? Guess I’m “moderate” or “not political”.’
This has actually been studied
Anti-Authoritarians and Moderates view it as best to be seen as Anti-Authoritarians, Authoritarians view it best to be seen as Moderates.
They literally view opportunistic claiming of the center not just as a political tool but as a social survival tactic to not be ostracized for their bullshit.
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Exactly this. Many of them are concerned about how it might affect their work too and their families if they found out they're were horrible racist people.
It's part of the reason why the KKK wore clokes
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on reddit, there's a place that requires you to flair yourself with your political compass, flaired myself centrist (after someone said "FLAIR UP!!!!!"), someone said "NO YOU'RE NOT!!!", later took the political compass test, came out centrist.
guess what i am now, given where i currently am
Anything but far-right, or as the Reddit PCM community would say, [insert series of slurs here]
Actual centrists recognize how extreme the right has gotten, and vote accordingly. Bothsiders are the brainless, egotistical tools of the far right, going along with normalizing fascism because they don't want to think too hard.
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I feel like it's much more often someone being called left when they're really a liberal, fash, red fash, etc.
The post brought to you by Emmanuel Macron
The extreme center, no political ideology, only opportunism!
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"I'm no Trump supporter, but..." is the new "I'm no racist, but...".
Damn this hits. I've worked with a lot of guys who "don't vote, don't pay attention" that are defacto conservative in their beliefs.
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