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Royce White, the 2024 Republican nominee for Senate in Minnesota, wrote in a social media post two years ago that “the bad guys won in WWII.”

White’s controversial opinion on World War II, first noted by Heartland Signal, is still up.

“It dawned on me today,” he wrote in a November 2020 post on X, then known as Twitter. “The bad guys won in WWII. There were no ‘good guys’ in that war. The controlling interests had a jump ball. If you look closely, you see the link between liberalism and communism in the Allied forces. Remember what Gen. Patton said and why they capped him.”

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Yet VoteVets, a progressive political action committee, wasn’t buying it.

“This isn’t just bizarre—it’s reprehensible,” the group wrote in response to White’s post. “His unhinged rants and attacks on his own party show exactly why the GOP’s candidate problem is a threat to us all.”

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 months ago

This sounds like the sort of thing a highschool sophomore would say after realizing that the allies had flaws too. How embarrassing...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Not even a little surprised, and it's hilarious that these morons never seem to understand that the internet is forever. Royce White is 33 years old. By the time he was old enough to use a computer, the original dot-com boom had started. There is no way he should be this internet-illiterate, and yet here we are.

At least he's in Minnesota where he has absolutely no chance of winning.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 35 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't be surprised if he thinks the bad guys won the American Civil War, too...

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago
[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

He's talking about Communists. The Soviets were a major part of the allied victory. More out of necessity than anything else. I don't think Stalin wanted to fight the Germans. Not at all. That's why he signed the The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, though I think he did want to use Germany's war to try and take territory for the Soviet Union, and expand the Soviet sphere of influence. Regardless, the Communists were on the winning side and people like this guy hate that fact.

They hate communism because the stated goal of communists is to create a classless, moneyless, stateless society. Modern Conservatives might not be fully aligned with Fascists in general, or the Nazis specifically, but they do have one very key thing in common with them: their incredibly strong belief in hierarchy. What the Nazis and modern Conservatives share in common is a belief that some people are inherently superior to others. For this reason, the idea of a society without social classes is abhorrent to them, and so is democracy. They cannot stand the idea of a society ruled by the people. In this regard, they are much more clearly aligned with fascists than communists, or democrats.

Modern Conservatives are not necessarily aligned with liberals, either, although liberalism does not reject hierarchy nor does it require, or even prefer, democracy (see Chile under Pinochet). In fact, I would say liberals prefer that their "democracy" be one that is carefully curated by elites, experts, and certain members of the upper social classes, rather than a state that is completely subordinate to the people. In this regard, I would say liberals are generally more closely aligned with modern Conservatives than communists or democrats. However, liberals and conservatives differ greatly on matters relating to supposed "natural hierarchies," like racial or ethnic hierarchies, as well as hierarchies based on gender, sexuality, religion, etc.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Something, something, Republicans aren't Nazis.

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not American here.

What does it exactly take to grow up some balls and ban the GOP once and for all?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean imagine banning the second biggest party in your own country. They're not a fringe group you can just ban and call it a day.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Sometimes I can't believe this website is free...