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I think we all owe The Marvels an apology...

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[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

My partner saw the first, opening night. Shes been under the weather all week. Ratings turned her off. Previews just started

[–] rei@piefed.social 30 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

CinemaScore also gave these scores:
Catwoman: B The Crow (2024): B-
Madame Web: C+
Batman & Robin: C+
Morbius: C+
Fantastic Four (2015): C-
Borderlands: D+

They seem really generous with their scoring

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They seem really generous with their scoring

CinemaScore polls audiences and presents that data in the form of an A to F rating. They don’t do subjective ratings or reviews. The score is intended to be a measure of the average audience sentiment to a film.

[–] rei@piefed.social 13 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, I read that on there; I guess I should have said the audiences they polled are really generous with their scoring

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Madame Web was the most fun I've had in a theater since before the pandemic. I did not outlast 10 other people in that theater just to allow someone to slander that masterpiece!

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

Audience score ratings for the sequel of a well received film. People are giving a score based on a higher expectation going in compared to the original. The bigger they are the harder they fall sort of thing.

I'm just speculating. And still hopeful I might enjoy it, though I'm not a huge fan of Lady Gaga

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Wow, worse than the first Suicide Squad?

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Having watched both I would much rather watch both Joker movies several times than any of the suicide squads movies. None are perfect but if you know the story and where the character is supposed to exist it's a good story across both.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah, 2nd Suicide Squad was good.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

You didn't like the newest suicide squad? I found that very enjoyable, and the spin off series peacemaker is great imo.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I don’t think that’s possible

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I enjoyed Suicide Squad far more than Incel Joker tbh

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

The second suicide squad was pretty good but the first was bad, more or less in the same ballpark as Joker IMO, but Joker was a little better.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone's shitting on the movie. I haven't seen it yet, but damn...

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

I’ve just seen it. It’s better than the reviews would suggest, but it’s not without flaws or quirks.

If you went into it expecting ‘more of Joker 1’ in terms of a straight, by the numbers sequel, you might very well come out disappointed. And there’s no denying that there’s a lot of singing in it, which inherently puts some people off. But if you’re willing to have an open mind, there’s a lot to love here.

I’ve seen terribly reviewed movies that I loved and well reviewed movies that I’ve hated. At the end of the day, it’s all someone else’s opinion anyway.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That's surprising. First one was good.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

First one was depressing. Awfully depressing. It was poignant and well done but I can't rewatch it because I have to gear up to be ready for it.

The second one is a musical. I'm not sure anyone is ready for that after the first one.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

It's weird. I watch the first Joker like three times so far. Haven't seen the second. Now, Requiem for a Dream, that's a hard watch for me.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago

I put Requiem in the category movies of "Best Films I'll Never See Again". "The Skin I Live In" is in there too.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Requiem is presented well, but I can't get past the unrealistic situations they put the characters through, especially near the end.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

They both are depressing as fuck. Add in Blow too.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

First film was a great film if it were new IP, but a shit joker batman film. The second film was always likely to be shit, because they were always going for abstract and avant garde artistry without a clear connection to the underlying and far stronger story and IP people are expecting. I'm sure it's a beautiful film and musical, but it's dog shit attached to joker.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't even view the first as anything related to Batman. Just a standalone movie to me.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

I think a lot of the Batman connections were completely unnecessary and felt jarring. There weren't that many and they were brief but I just wish they weren't there at all. It's a great film flaws and all to me.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's what it was supposed to be, a gritty disconnected story about what a more realistic take on a joker would be, don't think batman or super heroes was supposed to be in either one, not sure where that commenter is coming from.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

There is Bruce Wayne in the first one. He is the rich guy the main character meets in the public toilets then go stalk at his house.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That’s Thomas Wayne, Bruce is the kid he’s playing with at the gate

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

But that’s not the point.

Batman is a presence. The Wayne’s as a story element, they are supposed to be moral & ethical pillars. Solid truth. Batman does not kill and preserves an ethical truth.

All while the joker is a shifting description… an unreliable narrator. not a pillar not anything solid or true. The villains can shift and don’t have to hold true to anything. The killing joke is all about the lie and shifting excuses…

The movie may suck but a shifty joker hasn’t traditionally been the reason.

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Bruce and Thomas Wayne were in the movies yes, they are part of that universe but it is not a superhero batman film or in that universe which is what I had mentioned

[–] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] keyez@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There are a handful of singing renditions and dressed up numbers with the two main actors.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] keyez@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

They had Lady Gaga in the movie and gotta use her talents, a couple of the numbers were good and made sense, some were forced and unnecessary.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Because the staircase scene in the first one was popular. So quadruple down!