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Is it time to make Election Day a federal holiday? 🗳️ Some say it would boost voter turnout and align the U.S. with other democracies, while others argue it could create challenges for hourly workers and cost millions. Dive into the debate over whether a federal voting holiday is the best way to strengthen democracy or if there are better solutions. Check out the full breakdown!

https://ace-usa.org/blog/research/research-votingrights/should-election-day-become-a-federal-holiday-weighing-the-benefits-and-drawbacks/

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many argue that advocates should redirect their efforts to create early voting options

Additionally, opponents emphasize that private employers are not required to recognize or give paid time off for federal holidays.

Both arguments against it are whataboutist horseshit. Anyone claiming these as reasons not to also make it a holiday would almost certainly also be against "okay, let's do all three", because they are arguing in bad faith.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you imagine a world where workers get the day off as a recognized federal holiday but because of early mail in voting they took advantage of they get just a day off during some of the busiest time of the year to get chores and other tasks done and it inspires people to participate more actively and proactively because of the benefits that are overwhelmingly positive?

Its a shame that apparently there might be some lost profits for a day so its apparently impossible, and now we have to make other excuses as if they are legitimate.

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If only we could find a way to monotize it and get people buying random low quality junk to trade around so that corps still gets to profit off it.

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"Those against making Election Day a federal holiday argue that such a large focus on one day is misguided, since almost 70% of ballots in the 2020 presidential election were cast before Election Day."

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

These are the same people that think that more testing will make the number of COVID cases go up.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

My first thought as well. "We don't need to make it easier to vote on election day, because not many people vote on election day" - let's stop and think really hard about that for a minute.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes.

Moving on.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Benefits: People get to exercise their constitutional right to participate in democracy without sacrificing their livelihood

Drawbacks: None

[–] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Drawbacks: Stockholders don’t like it when the slaves don’t work

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Pissing off stockholders is a benefit

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm all for it as long as bars, restaurants, grocery stores, and shops close down too. Fast food workers and the like shouldn't have to show up to work when everyone else gets the day off to vote.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

This could be easily solved if we simply allowed voting to go on for a week, and mandated that every business must give every employee a day off during that week to go vote. Hell, it could be a month if we wanted. The only reasons to limit voting to a single day are malicious ones.

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[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In France, voting day is always a Sunday. And if you work on a Sunday (most people don't), your boss has to schedule your working day so that you can go and vote.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, because in France they're a hair trigger away from setting shit on fire, like all the time.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago

If that's what it takes, I guess

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Opponents counter that a holiday may not significantly increase turnout and could even create challenges for some workers.

Ok well can we collectively agree that the opponents to this are full of shit? Like, this is less than a no brainer. This is a negative brainer. In that to oppose a national election day holiday, your aim must be less people voting. There's one party that does well when less working people vote, and surprise surprise, it's the party that keeps denying us a federal election day holiday. GEE, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY.

Trump said this week of Democratic voting proposals. “They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”

From a 2020 Vanity Fair Article, discussing how Democrats wanted to make it easier/safer for people to vote during the pandemic.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In Canada every Canadian is guaranteed four contiguous hours off work on election day while the polls are open to vote.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Make voting take a week and limit campaigning to 90 days before the end of that week.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (10 children)

So many things to fix about our broken democratic institutions. Every state should have mail-in voting as well as early voting. Every state should automate the registration of voters as much as possible as well. And sure, election day should be a federal holiday, or moved to Sunday or Saturday, at least.

Other things to work on: ranked choice voting and getting rid of the nasty racist holdover that is the EC. Also, we need to remove the special privileges that rural land has over people. Way too many ways our current system gives remote areas more representation than they should have...

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Germany we always have elections on Sundays so it's basically a public holiday (unlike in the US where stores are still open). There are enough places to vote (though you're assigned to the one in your district for statistical reasons) so you rarely have to stand in line. I've seen pictures of voting lines in the US and was shocked...

Mail-in votes are available to everyone and it's being used a lot but for many people going to the voting place in person has more meaning to it. Some even put on a suit, but that could also be because they are on the way to church.

Electronic voting was discussed but the consensus is that it's not safe enough.

The question if it should be a public holiday in the US is weird to me as it is a very clear YES and also YES people should definitely always get a day off on public holidays wtf

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've seen pictures of voting lines in the US and was shocked...

Yeah, but those aren't ubiquitous.

If you live in a suburb or rural area you can count on a dozen nearby polling stations and a 5 minute in and out.

If you live anywhere that supported the confederacy and might vote blue then you might have to deal with a 4-5 hour wait, coupled with provisional ballots that are not counted, voting roll purges, and other minor issues.

I guess what I'm saying is those crazy lines aren't too much of an issue so long as you try to vote in a part of the country Hitler himself didn't write of as an example of genetic enforcement to follow in Mein Kampf.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Easier solution than trying to have a single day off for everyone:

Since early voting is a thing, all employers should be required to give workers 1 paid flex day during voting season so they can vote.

They can even tie the flex day to evidence that they actually voted, so it truly encourages voting instead of just being an extra day off.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Additionally, opponents emphasize that private employers are not required to recognize or give paid time off for federal holidays.

lol "we shouldn't fix this fucked up thing because this other thing is also fucked up"

that's a you problem, dog

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 134 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Although the federal government cannot require private companies to observe holidays

JFC what a dystopian hellhole. It kills me they are so proud of their shitty living conditions.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago (10 children)

All of those drawbacks are bullshit.

Early voting and mail in ballots should be more available to everyone. That's not a reason not to make it a holiday.

Private employers can't be forced to observe a holiday. That's not a reason not to make it a holiday. People required to work could still go before or after work, and would see reduced wait times because public employees would be able to go during work hours.

Finding childcare for the day is a problem anyway, as polling places are often schools, and the kids are sent home anyway. If it was a holiday, you could take your kids with you to the polls and then go to the park. That's almost a reason not to make it a holiday, but not really.

If banks, post offices, and schools are all closed, a lot of businesses will also close because work slows down. Other employers, like retailers, food service, and entertainment venues like movie theaters would all see an uptick in business, and would probably offer extra pay for those shifts.

Yes to mail in ballots. Yes to early voting. Yes to a national election holiday. Reduce the barriers to voting. No to ID laws. No to voter roll purges. No to proof of citizenship requirements.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only reason to not make voting day a holiday is because the very people preferring you not vote are losing profits and power don’t want the people worked the hardest to have a say in changing the system.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Republican Party benefits from low voter turnout, so they'd block this at every opportunity.

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