matrix: unstable overall
"Unstable" is an understatement, and this comes from a girl who uses it all day every day.
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
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KiwiIRC is a web based IRC client. Does not have voice chat afaik, but since it's IRC it's very lightweight and had a low entry barrier.
I use Steam Chat for playing games with family and friends. It has better audio quality than discord in my opinion, and you can make groups (something like Discord servers) too. It doesn't have all the functionality of servers, but the basic idea is there.
I am actually surprised nobody mentioned it yet Why use some third party application, when you can use the Steam's one.
It's not like the OP is concerned about privacy. They were using discord. They didn't say it has to be open source.
For talking outside of gaming or away from PC, I use signal.
Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.
However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try
There was a TS4?
There's guilded, have an old guild leader in tech that always tries to get us to be guinea pigs for different voips, and that one isn't terrible if discord isn't available.
Ventrilo, is that even around anymore?
Mumble wasn't too bad,
Alternatively mumble and murmur, but the setup is more elaborate.
To those suggesting mumble, are there any good guides out there? The website is shockingly bad for introductory information.
Jitsi meet is what I use for calls with my friends. You can continue using revolt or matrix or something for the text channels.
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Theres also zulip, but I havent tried it yet, but its supposedly open source discord, but you have to host the server yourself I think.
Matrix is probably the closest to Discord overall. If Element is bugging out on you, it might be worth trying other clients. Nheko worked well when I tried it, for example. Do note that the matrix.org homeserver is sometimes overloaded, so if you're having responsiveness issues, choosing or running a different homeserver will probably clear them right up.
Mumble.info is great for voice. If your text chat needs are pretty basic, it might be a good fit. I don't think it saves message history.
XMPP is a protocol, not an app. If you you saw an interface you didn't like, you could always just use a different client. I don't usually recommend it, since setting it up with all the features people usually expect is a bit complicated and error-prone, but it would probably be fine among a small group of friends if one of them has tech skills. I don't think it offers voice, at least not in any widely-supported way.
Our group uses mumble for voice and discord for text and backup voice or external voice. The voice quality is better, free, faster on mumble. Extremely low server requirements. It technically saves chat history but as server logs, not for the client.
waits for matrix fanboys to still chime in
My client shouldn't be bugged when I enter a room with a long history, right? Right?
Couldn't decrypt message
Hey, they're fixing that. Soon. Really. Any day now. For reals!
(That's the #1 thing that makes Matrix utterly unusable for me: if there's more than like, 10 messages, it's a game of is-it-broken-or-is-it-just-crap.)
Tbf, they actually are. Element X and the sliding sync are ready I think. If the server and client both use it, I think you can use it today. Or maybe the whole matrix 2.0 where that's all integrated isn't pushed into main/master yet. Im any case, I read it was ready maybe a few weeks ago.
Element X is still missing a lot of features, "ready" is an exaggeration I feel
No Spaces support in particular is a dealbreaker for me
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I setup a Mattermost server for me and the boys. It’s more slack than discord. But chat, rooms and voice all worked. Push notifications worked on android and Apple. But, I had to admit defeat. No one wants to leave discord because they all have at least 1 friend who won’t leave it.
I tried to self hosted matrix, but it suffered the same feigned interest.
We need client compatibility with discord
Discord is a closed source system. Matrix with a discord bridge would work. You just use your matrix server and a bot to send and receive on your behalf. There is functionality between but technically the two systems are independent. I also see issues with it not being 100% all the time. Typical of something bridging to a closed system.
What compatibility are you looking for? A non discord application connected directly to a discord server and can send text, audio and visual via discord infrastructure? Nah, probably won’t happen. Bridging is the closest right now.
In fact matrix is great
How? A few weeks back I had to deal with getting spammed with invites to CSAM rooms. I've also been harassed many times on it. And not to mention lack of moderation tools and state issues.
Do not have really the problems you mentioned,but sadly it's more a problem of community than service ...
Mfw state resets (problem in server) is actually just because of the users
IRC.
irssi for cli, hexchat for gui
Discord is banned in Turkiye.
Considering the nature of these programs, I think the most important thing to hone in on is: what's popular in Turkiye? Features and functionality don't mean squat if no one's around to enjoy them.
...tad off topic, but this thread is making me miss xFire. That shit was better 10 years ago (maybe more like 15? idk, I'm old) than Discord was at its peak. ...litigated out of existence by Yahoo's frivolous weaponization of our legal system. This is why we can't have nice things.
Edit - Fuck you, Yahoo.
xFire was great, didn't know the whole yahoo thing
Kinda liked the separate applications for voice and chat, we used ventrilo over teamspeak for reasons I don't recall but all of that is just ancient history at this point (was using that like literally 20 years ago)
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When it got banned? My Friend is from Turkiye. He still used it.
Todays news
https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/turkiye-bans-discord-amid-concerns-over-platform-safety-62896/
For now, Discord users in Türkiye face limited access to the platform, though it remains unclear whether a full ban will be implemented in the coming days.
Still working for me on hotel wifi.
Edit: it won’t launch on my laptop now. Stuck trying to update. Still works on my phone.
Some groups have allegedly used the “901” tag in their usernames to identify themselves, raising alarms among officials and parents alike
What does this mean? I can't seem to find info on what a 901 tag even is.
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I would not be surprised if a large chunk of population can evade bans, so no surprise.
On one hand, it's cool that you have an excuse to ditch Discord. The platform sucks in several different ways and the more people leave it, the better off the world is.
But on the other - you seem to be aiming for the wrong goal. I know what it's like to have one thing blocked after the other, so I know for sure that migrating every time something gets blocked is just not a sustainable long-term strategy. You might replace Discord for unrelated reasons... But I strongly advise you to look into censorship circumvention methods. Especially stealthy ones, like they use in China. Set it up for your family and friends (maybe distributing the server costs between them). You will need it.
I'm in the same boat and also looking for a privacy-respecting platform for communicating with family and friends. So I'd also like to add items that are not yet mentioned to the list of suggestions:
- Jami
- Peer Calls - can be selfhosted; you can try it out straight away using their flagship instance located here.
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