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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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[–] nightsky@awful.systems 14 points 4 days ago (14 children)
[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago

That will certainly improve the mh of yters who already feel they are under extreme pressure.

But users like engagement! Which means seeing that the person wrote a thing and not reading the thing and making a human connection with someone who is, y'know, engaged in conversation.

I know chatbots don't track meaning, but I'm pretty sure words still mean things.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bob Dylan has responded to a Bitcoin Groyper account

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

sammy boi is giving up on the pretense that any of this was about enriching lives, and is now only focusing on the eyegrab (archive)

anyone wanna take bets on how much pearlclutching surprisedpikachu we'll see

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

anyone wanna take bets on how much pearlclutching surprisedpikachu we’ll see

I suspect we'll see a fair amount. Giving some specifics:

  1. I suspect we'll see Sammy accused of endangering all of humanity for a quick buck - taking Altman at his word, OpenAI is attempting to create something which they themselves believe could wipe out humanity if they screw things up.

  2. I expect calls to regulate the AI industry will louden in response to this - what Sammy's doing here is giving the true believers more ammo to argue Silicon Valley may potentially trigger the robot apocalypse that Silicon Valley themselves have claimed AI is capable of unleashing.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

perhaps saltman will have enough audacity to promote this as a way to ensure that some account is owned by a human, after flooding every corner of internet with ai slop and fake accounts

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

that’s almost certainly the plan — I remember there was some horrific “proof of humanity” shit tied in with this, supposedly so that you could tell if you’re interacting with a human rather than a chatbot. there’s so many problems with that technically of course, not least of which is the chatbot guy also owning the proof of not-bot, but there’s deeper horrifying implications: this is the technology conservatives have been begging for to block access to “adult sites” (see: LGBTQ+ spaces and associates) and “protect voting” (see: purge voter registries). that the technology is fucking stupid and doesn’t work doesn’t matter to them — as always with technofascism, that’s a feature.

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Create the problem and sell the solution.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did Sam anticipate the easily foreseeable avalanche of AI slop, decide that proof of humanity was a worthwhile investment, and only then notice that all the suggested search completions for "proof of" were crypto?

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Kinda surprised World(Coin) was still ongoing, thought saltman would have quietly buried the project now he's busy shilling ChatGPT

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago

The 0.000001% chance that this thing morphs into the new global reserve currency is enough for a proper rationalist to keep it trundling along, don't you think?

Also don't underestimate the value of having someplace to park useful cronies you don't currently have any other job for

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 4 days ago
[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

here’s the latest on the wordpress situation thanks to 404media:

New alignment offer: I guess some people were sad they missed the last window. Some have been leaking to the press and ex-employees. That's water under the bridge. Maybe the last offer needed to be higher. People have said they want a new window, so this is my attempt. Here's a new one: You have until 00:00 UTC Oct 17 (-4 hours) to DM me the words, ‘I resign and would like to take the 9-month buy-out offer’ You don't have to say any reason, or anything else. I will reply ‘Thank you.’ Automattic will accept your resignation, you can keep you [sic] office stuff and work laptop; you will lose access to Automattic and Wong (no slack, user accounts, etc). HR will be in touch to wrap up details in the coming days, including your 9 months of compensation, they have a lot on their plates right now. You have my word this deal will be honored. We will try to keep this quiet, so it won't be used against us, but I still wanted to give Automatticians another window.

there’s a (mid) joke here about how a boy who’s obsessed with photography really should understand more about optics

and who wouldn’t trust their livelihood in a difficult job market to a promise from a very stable genius like matt, who will destroy you financially if he thinks you talked to the press:

After an exodus of employees at Automattic who disagreed with CEO Matt Mullenweg’s recently divisive legal battle with WP Engine, he’s upped the ante with another buyout offer—and a threat that employees speaking to the press should “exit gracefully, or be fired tomorrow with no severance.”

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago

alignment offer

That's sure a choice of words, ain't it

[–] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago

this guy's information diet is 90% recycled memes by volume, isn't it

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago

New piece from The Atlantic: The AI Boom Has an Expiration Date

The full piece is worth a read, but the conclusion's pretty damn good, so I'm copy-pasting it here:

All of this financial and technological speculation has, however, created something a bit more solid: self-imposed deadlines. In 2026, 2030, or a few thousand days, it will be time to check in with all the AI messiahs. Generative AI—boom or bubble—finally has an expiration date.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

apparently those qualcomm NPUs (the "AI assist" chips in the copilot(?) laptops) aren't very good

[–] corbin@awful.systems 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thus leading to this sneer on HN. I'm quoting it in entirety; click through for Poe's Law responses.

I was telling someone this and they gave me link to a laptop with higher battery life and better performance than my own, but I kept explaining to them that the feature I cared most about was die size. They couldn't understand it so I just had to leave them alone. Non-technical people don't get it. Die size is what I care about. It's a critical feature and so many mainstream companies are missing out on my money because they won't optimize die size. Disgusting.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago

gonna have to ship this person a 20d100 kit. maybe custom woodgrain? show some thought, y'know

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The what in the what now?

What a terrible day to tech.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

wtf are NPUs anyway? some specialised vector maths thing?

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 5 days ago

non processing units

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 4 days ago

hang on I have another.

NPU? More like, N-Pee-eeeww!!

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Molly White reports on Kamala Harris's recent remarks about Cryptocurrency being a cool opportunity for black men.

VP Harris's press release (someone remind me to archive this once internet archive is up). Most of the rest of it is reasonable, but it paints cryptocurrency in a cautiously positive light.

Supporting a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets so Black men who invest in and own these assets are protected

[...]

Enabling Black men who hold digital assets to benefit from financial innovation.

More than 20% of Black Americans own or have owned cryptocurrency assets. Vice President Harris appreciates the ways in which new technologies can broaden access to banking and financial services. She will make sure owners of and investors in digital assets benefit from a regulatory framework so that Black men and others who participate in this market are protected.

Overall there has been a lot of cryptocurrency money in this US election on both sides of the aisle, which Molly White has also reported extensively on. I kind of hate it.

"regulation" here is left (deliberately) vague. Regulation should start with calling out all the scammers, shutting down cryptocurrency ATMs, prohibiting noise pollution, and going from there; but we clearly don't live in a sensible world.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 days ago

who tf in fourth year of our lord covid puts money on fire in crypto

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago

Introducing the official crypto coin of the Harris-Walz ticket: JoyCoin! Trading under JOY. Every time a coin is minted, we shoot someone from the global south in the head.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Presented, without comment, this book cover:

Artificial Intelligence-Enabled Blockchain Technology and Digital Twin for Smart Hospitals

(found on the social medias, the books' website)

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 22 points 6 days ago

fig. 1: how awful.systems works

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