[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 16 hours ago

More people using it, more training data fed into it

yes but that’s not actually the hard and costly part. the hard and costly part is the actual training action, which runs in the hundred of millions if not more

which, y’know, when lower prices…..

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 20 hours ago

lol, I saw that going aflame among the promptfondlers nearest me, too

model auto-tune. they’re getting hype for model auto-tune. I expect we’ll little outside breathless tests of autotuned models for a few days

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 20 hours ago

this combined with the anthropic amended s-1 (which I very briefly dug into here, will dig more later), the numbers are all just about as bad as I’ve been thinking they’d be

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

so there’s a new nber econometrics paper out, covering our favourite industry

it has some bangers in it

Paid adoption is substantially more common among younger and higher-income consumers: those earning more than $200,000 per year are 1.7 times as likely to pay as those earning less than $50,000, and those younger than 55 are 1.8 times as likely as those aged 55 or older

starting strong!

This force creates a dynamic incentive to set lower prices today: lower prices attract more users, improving future model quality and raising future demand

I don’t entirely follow how setting lower prices today improves future model quality but sure I’ll go along with the ride

Despite this limited horizontal differentiation, we find some degree of vertical differentiation across providers, consistent with observed market shares. At the end of our sample, the average consumer was willing to pay a $10 monthly premium for OpenAI products relative to Anthropic products. Part of this difference reflects model quality: our estimates indicate that consumers are willing to pay more for higher-quality models. For instance, moving from GPT-4’s capability level to GPT-5.5 Pro’s raises average willingness to pay for OpenAI products by approximately $25 per month

We also use the model to examine how consumer preferences for AI services shape competition. We begin by considering substitutability across services. By the end of our sample, all pairs of AI services are substitutes on average

“do you want tea or coffee?” “yes”

OpenAI has the highest retention of all AI products we study, with 77% of people still paying after one month, 65% after three months, and 55% after six months. Anthropic and xAI are lower, but similar to each other: around 65%, 50%, and 40% after one, three, and six months,

in the words of basement jaxx, down down downdown down downdown downdown

chat is it good when your world changing ai god keeps not getting picked for anyone’s team during lunch football

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

hah, nice. yeah the template layout immediately made me think that, but your word has far more weight :)

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they can go piss themselves! over there somewhere. that isn't here.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

"lounge carpet smelling like piss" is not a thing many people want in their lounges

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

I really dislike how he believes that LLMs and fascism are “separate axes”. Where does he think the LLMs come from?

valsorda worked at google for a very long time, well past when it became clear that they were no longer the good guys. his motivation for this was (only very slightly paraphrased) "well, it's better than whatever else I might get in my home country" (italy)

he's also had a few choice other takes over the last few years, enough such that I stopped following his work. I would not be too surprised if he turns out to be quite a shit in some years to come

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

you're the kind of programmer your colleagues hate having to deal with

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

looks like iocaine with a papers corpus (although I guess kyle could've made his own thing too)

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 2 days ago

The only thing that would really prevent me from migrating to greener pastures is if they stop collaborating with the Zionist Swiss University that support Israels military.

so they're actively doing it, but you're also still actively on their service. and you'll only consider not moving if they stop that collab? you don't consider moving now, while they're still doing it? wat

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

support mail, "hi I was considering using your service but on learning about your CEO's shitty views have decided to take my money elsewhere"

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I enjoyed reading this, I figured some of y'all may too

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as seen here and here, some instances are feeding posts wholesale to prompts, for what seem like extremely unsound reasons to me

any of you run into this shit yet?

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ethical Ai alliance, clause 0 (ethicalaialliance.org)

stumbled over this in my feed earlier, looks interesting

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seen via this

might be a cool thing some here may enjoy contributing to

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London permacomputing club (london.permacomputing.net)

Just ran across this and figured I’d link to people, looks interesting

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revisiiiioooooon! (2025.revision-party.net)

I forgot to post it here earlier but it's revision weekend!

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in the spirit of this post, but from the other side

I have a shitdroid that I can't root because the vendor sucks, but google can go fuck themselves too. combined with that I haven't androided much for about a decade and know nothing about the current ecosystem.. I'm looking for good alternatives to a few things. free/foss preferred but I'm pragmatic over picky - if there's a good paid option I'm willing to consider it

immediate known requirements include contact sync, calendar (more business than personal but either works if it's good). maybe also other things I should know about?

judicuous preference to things that support open protocols and self-hosting (i.e. anything that has to use their service to operate - no go)

tell me about good apps! I know about syncthing and photosync

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some of the sub’s friends are holding a conference although they’re still not totally comfortable to go public:

but buyers are warned that purchases will “require approval”

aww, the poor babies. even with literal nazis in the whitehouse they still feel uncomfortable to spout their weird shit

hopefully if this thing happens at all, someone documents the everliving hell out of every attendee

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the precision and clarity are astounding

by the time the hilbert curves got there my mouth was hanging open, and it still gets better

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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last week's thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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'cuz I definitely do

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“stepping away because I want to create the time and space to do my own exploration.”

yeah I completely believe you, weird lady. I too want to vaguely step into the warm embrace of my piles of ill-gotten gold, forgetting about the stressors of how to sell something that doesn’t exist and that you helped claim would be here really soon now. ahhh, bliss..

one’s gotta wonder about the timing of this announcement, right? like come the fuck on

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