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I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who's so fragile on opinions and things that they'll scream 'BAN THEM BAN THEM!'.

I've been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

And I'd stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it's the same questions I've seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they'll be hours old and some of them can be years old.

I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you're allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don't really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.

I don't know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you're dealing with 50 people at any given day.

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[–] Tucumano88@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

It happen to me, pixelfed, dedicated networks about history... And nothing happen... And I'm about of 3 years active in fediverse

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Post something then. Go to whatever your niche sub is and post on it. People will see it and you might get some engagements. I recently posted in !knives@sopuli.xyz and !geocaching@lemmy.world and got engagement.

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago

yes! I posted a similar question in a diff community and someone responded: " be the change you want to see". that's pretty much all we can do! :)

[–] tupalos@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Do you guys feel like the federation hurts Lemmy?

Like I see its benefits, but for an average user, the feel of Lemmy as an app is less intuitive than reddit

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy currently has 45k monthly active users: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Centralized alternatives:

There was a thread yesterday on /r/RedditAlternatives talking about "how do you attract users to a new alternatives", most of the comments where about how difficult it is: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1g4zcdi/for_those_of_you_who_started_your_own_alternative/

Based on this, I would say that Lemmy allowing everyone to open a server helps in that regard. Instance admins are more confident in the platform as they have control on this. Users trust admins.

[–] tupalos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ya I definitely don’t wanna take away from what Lemmy has accomplished

It’s definitely the best alternative to Reddit that I have seen. But the federation does add another way of complexity that I wasn’t used to coming from Reddit. Whenever I join a new community now, they may be across different federations and it seems like the popularity of these communities almost compete with each other, which detracts from having a big user-based community to ask questions to

[–] ColonelPanic@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I do, but only because the UX around federated entities isn't great at the moment. There's no doubt that it could be made way more intuitive and streamlined for the average user, and that more effort could be put into migration between federated entities so that it doesn't feel like as much of a chore to jump between instances. The average user won't care about federation, and they just want to quickly get some content.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

migration between federated entities so that it doesn’t feel like as much of a chore to jump between instances.

Migration takes two clicks from the account settings, are you referring to something else?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes there needs to be more people. There's barely any active discussion here. If you don't want to shit on Israel, there's just shit posts and Linux. We need more people to get active sports discussion, movies, TV, or anything else.

[–] Lizardking13@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I'd love a more active sports area. I comment semi regularly in a few. There is small engagement, but would love even 10-15% more.

[–] jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I moved to lemmy hoping it would be like classic Reddit, which it is to some extent. Unfortunately, my experience has been more like browsing Imgur – just endless memes and shitposts.

I tried blocking all the meme-focused communities I could find, but now my feed feels like a ghost town.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Did you have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?

What are your interests?

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I personally love the smaller userbase. Less spam, more quality, less screentime, no doomscrolling. Its a win-win in my book.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Plus you get to see the same accounts, the entirety of Lemmy feels like a community

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

Same. The only thing being niche subs on local stuff. But I remember early Reddit, and that had the same feel. Maybe with a bit more generalized memes because the hivemind was so much more exciting.

But the lack of automated astroturf and shorter comment sections makes it easy more pleasant.

[–] NaNin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It just takes time. More passionate posters will come. Reddit is mostly ai-generated at this point.

I wish more technically focused communities had a real home here. I'll google something, and see that the project I'm working on has a dedicated subreddit where someone asked my question. Wish I could see lemmy in my search results.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There is no guarantee that there will be more posters. This place might very well disappear in a few years.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

Doubtful. Individual instances, yes, but lemmy overall? No.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Even when I left reddit a year ago, most accounts on the front page were reposts bots. If you spent more than a year or two on reddit, you realize everything on the front page is recycled content.

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, I wish there would be more. But I am okay with the state it's in. The engagement is good enough, and I discover interesting things every other day. You can't force it anyway.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When I used to have Reddit on my phone, I'd look at it as soon as I woke up. There was new content constantly throughout the day so I kept coming back.

Lemmy doesn't have the content churn, so I can genuinely just look once a day and spend an hour or so catching up. No FOMO! I much prefer it.

However I do miss some of the niche subreddits that got reasonable activity on Reddit and absolutely zero activity here. They were my favourite part of Reddit.

I'd take more activity in those niche places, but I don't miss the addiction I had.

Spez let me go cold turkey for a while. Thanks (fuck) Spez.

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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not overly. More people will be good at first because it'll mean more content, but with more people and more popularity comes the corpos and enshittification.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hard to have enshittification in a FOSS platform.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Corpo shills --> bots --> ads disguised as content --> shit

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[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.

One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You'd read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.

The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.

Maybe I'm wrong but it's just something I thought about.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"New comments" allows to see the latest comments in conversations. Which is why I'm replying to you, while there are already 97 other comments here.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure that is true. Thank you for looking at my post and replying to it by the way. But I was just thinking how some people might just look at the top comments and nothing else. Maybe the upvote system does have some benefits though, like making bad posts less visible.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I got my first reddit ban today!! I told a gamer advocating for bikini armor or something that he should just get a second screen and watch porn while he plays if he's so fucking horny all the time and it was flagged as "harassment". It's only for 7 days so I guess I need to work harder to get a permaban lol.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

Blue sky is not on the fediverse. They've decided to come up with their own federating system from the ground up, which I think kind of squandered what could have been a pivotal opportunity to help facilitate a mass exodus from Twitter, contributing to fragmentation and confusion.

But anyway. I think they intend to have their own version of federating soon but I don't think it's up and running yet.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are not really allowing federation.

Details here: https://lemmy.ml/post/20064488

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Thank you for that read. Seems to completely miss the point of federation. The core motivations related to improving choices about how user names and federation structure works, and forcing their domain to be the mandatory user facing side of the whole network could not possibly miss the point more except by being actually centralized. Mandatory firehose relays of the entire networds data that can't be federated or defederated that could be prohibitively costly to host?

And the complexities under the hood that attempt to square this circle are infinitely more confusing than explaining Mastodon instances.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Happy to help. Yes, that's pretty much the conclusion we made.

Seems to completely miss the point of federation.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe less content is good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy allows me to at least move onto something else.

[–] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Yeah but also the content is quite repetitive imo

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

I just wish it had more diversity.
Everyone's a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey! I'm a white 30-year-old born female Linux user, clearly Lemmy is burgeoning with diversity!

Who tf is born 40 years old???

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[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 day ago (11 children)

For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.

[–] helloworld55@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

1000% agree. But to Lemmy's credit, I found a greate niche community of linux and programming enthusiasts, plus I've noticed I run into Europeans more in the wild on here.

I think the fediverse has it's benefits. Still not a full replacement. Truthfully I don't think it will ever be, those niche communities will always end up being hosted where it suits them best.

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