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[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 109 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I have been rewatching some franchise media that got bad receptions (new star trek movies, matrix reloaded, The Phantom Menace) and I have been feeling a lot more charitable to these works than I was the first time.

In this spirit I watched The Hobbit again and it is truly awful.

[–] corvi@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I seem to recall there being a pretty good fan edit that condensed it down into one long movie and cut out all the unnecessary love triangle stuff.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I enjoyed watching that when it was first created! Any word of a 1080p for that one? I'd even take a release of the timestamps so that I could make the edit to my 1080p versions.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's a few. I watched the M4 book edit recently and it's pretty great.

Certainly cut out a few scenes I liked, but its goal was to be book accurate and it does a great job IMO.

https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/

The list of changes is remarkable.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] illi@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can wouch for this one. Very well done. I wish they cut out more Alfrid time though.

Alfrid makes me understand why people hate Jar Jar so much.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like Darth Jar Jar. I want video genAI to execute what it was really built for and replace Dooku with DarthJar.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like is a strong word I think. I don't mind him. But I was a kid when Phantom Menace came out, I didn't really fully experience the original trilogy before I saw it. So that's why - for a kid it's a fun goofy comic relief. So might have liked him back then, which moved my tolerance for him in adulthood. Didn't see the movie in years though.

LotR is sacred to me on a similar level like the SW original trilogy was sacred to the die hard SW fans back then, probably. I can't say I hated the Hobbit movies (though they are clearly inferior - the edit really saved them), but I hate Alfrid with everlasting passion.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this the same edit made by Tolkien Editor or is it another cut?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a different cut. Tolkien Editor wrote he edited over a weekend, the maple edit took 2 years.

Another edit is https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit

Which is closer to the book, whereas maple is a bit more action/cinematic and hints at LOTR plot.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Reloaded was well liked. Revolutions was widely panned. I also rewatched them both recently (all four plus the Animatrix in order, actually) and I found that I liked them more on rewatch, a couple decades later, than I did initially.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

I recommend giving the X Man Series another try. I recently did and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. The original timeline just feel like perfect cheap action movies from the 2000s. Brought me back to my childhood. Same with the "Unbreakable Trilogy"

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

On the other hand, rewatching any season of True Detective is doable.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When she's crying over her dead dwarf:

"why does it hurt so much?"

"Because it was REAL!"

Has to be one of the worst, cheesiest and badly acted interactions in movie history, it's up there with all the romance scenes in the star wars prequels. I cackled when I first heard it

[–] Telcontar@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago

It's very versatile though. Every time my wife asks "why does it xyz?", in my most dramatic voice "because it was real"

She hates it lol

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is this the hobbit? I stopped watching after the first one betrayed young me so badly.

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Their worst sin in my opinion is actually how they split off the end of the Smaug storyline to be resolved in, like, the first five minutes of the third movie (literally before the title) rather than resolving it in the second movie. Huge pacing mistake.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

WHAT? Like, I know that the battle and stuff does happen after Smaug, so he’s not the final event of the book like you’d think, but I can’t imagine jumping into the third movie for a weirdly quick pay-off and then watching them drag out the battle for basically an entire movie.

God the more I know about these movies the happier I am in my choice to just cherish the book on its own.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

There are plenty of huge errors in these movies, but the pacing of Smaug's demise was one of the better deviations.

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

I recommend watching the third one, not because it is a good movie, but because it is a hilarious movie.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That's the right way to do it.

Some people have to keep watching so they can get mad, and make people who like it feel bad.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But how would you cram in some unnecessary romance without dreamy eyed elves?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

D'ye no find these eyes a wee bit dreamy?"

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Those eyes are crazy

But that damn beard is so fluffy, I'm gonna to die.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's a dream, but I'm biased as I match him in height, figure and beard.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But are you dangerous over short distances?

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 week ago

I can only assume, yes. I'm not getting into many arguments with orcs these days.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Well... you know what they say: if Frodo can go to Osgiliath...

[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The people they fight for are mostly not in the book either so I don't see a problem