It wasn't even an accident, he just killed a cyclist because he wanted to drive on a bicycle path without being, rightfully, called out for it. Bonus points for having his child in his car.
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And he wasn’t on drugs or anything, wasn’t a violent dude, he cried stating he didn’t know why he did that.
As if driving a tank made you feel invincible and dumb 🤦🏻🤷🏻♂️
He had multiple prior condamnations, he is violent
He had ? Ok I just read the article above and not more from French news.
No problem! And it doesn't remove from your point about cars making us behave differently
Altis made a very informative video about the whole thing
wasn’t a violent dude
What is a killing a person then?
wasn't
Implies past behavior
This article ruined my day when I read it in the newspaper.
Somebody does something absolutely retarded in traffic and if you criticize them you get run over.
No wonder I hate going outside.
And this is exactly why its so important to have protected and raised cycling paths to prevent altercations between the different modes of transportation.
This is also the exact same reason we have pedestrian sidewalks separated from vehicle traffic to prevent altercation such as this, and its why things like bollards, planters, curbs, and trees are so important between roadways and pedestrian zones to minimise stress both ways.
Safer roadways are not where we remove barriers for cars, but put up barriers to make traffic flow more efficiently and effectively.
ie. Barriers are things like signaled intersections, crosswalks, curbs, curb extensions, bollards, painted lanes, raised sidewalks, raised cycling paths, planters.
If you were the only person in a vehicle on the road stopped by a signaled intersection its probably very inconvenient for you, and you may ask for the signal to be removed as its a barrier. But if you add in the other vehicle traffic that uses the road with you, that signal now serves a very specific purpose to make your commute more efficient and safe. Without that signal, that exact same intersection would now be completely gridlocked with probably a few collisions, meaning you would get no where quick.
What a piece of shit. I hope he gets the book thrown at him.
He won't, because he's rich. The article is so apologetic already, several paragraphs about how bad this poor guy feels. Bonus points for mentioning he's a father of four (nothing is mentioned about the victim's family). "I'm not a thug!'. You disregarded other people's safety and well being for your own benefit, when being called out, you used unreasonable force. That's a thug to me.
This is partly a cultural difference. In Europe, there is just less emphasis on the retribution aspect of punishment. For an extreme example that's impossible to imagine in America, see the case of the Norwegian shooter.
And yes, I do think Europe does things better. The reality is that retribution serves no practical purpose. The kind of person who commits an awful crime is, by definition, not the kind who thinks hard about consequences, or else like here it's done in hot-blooded anger. Either way, the abstract fact of punishment is not going to function as a deterrent. So all we're left with is the primal urge to inflict suffering on the perpetrator. Personally, I like to think that we can try to rise above that.
I imagine that car deaths are not a "fact of life" in Europe as they are in the US, so he can actually get some punishment.
Yes they are, it's horrible.
If you kill a bicyclist standing on the bus lane with your car going nearly 3 times the speed limit, you will receive a one year suspended sentence and lose your license for 16 months in Germany.
10 year prison term seems fitting for a murder
You completely missed the point.
So zero years will rehabilitate him?
What will rehabilitate him depends on the perpetrator's psychology, not on how angry the crime makes you feel.
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Absolutely, especially when it's ten of your younger years.
Doubt he will get it tho... In US people thrist for blood until the savage is upper class and/or white because we wouldn't want to ruin a good life🤡
If it wasn't for the footage, this clown be would be getting charged with Manslaughter and at most few years on weekend.
These murders apparently dindu nuffin, mate.
You're not wrong.
So this is another "Affluezna" watershed moment, I guess?
Smug europoors in shambles...