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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 2 hours ago

When I hear about tech companies going all in on AI as a hedge against the future, I'm reminded of this scene from Ice Age:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7B-1mLMpHw

[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 12 points 2 hours ago

Actual message I got while renewing my insurance plan last night. Thank you for adding a shitty chat bot which will give me false information about my life and death decisions, bravo.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

~~Kendrick~~ Zitron dropped - its mainly focusing on Prabhakar Raghavan's recent kicking upstairs, and Google's bleak future.

Main highlight was this snippet:

I am hypothesizing here, but I think that Google is desperate, and that its earnings on October 30th are likely to make the street a little worried. The medium-to-long-term prognosis is likely even worse. As the Wall Street Journal notes, Google's ad business is expected to dip below 50% market share in the US in the next year for the first time in more than a decade, and Google's gratuitous monopoly over search (and likely ads) is coming to an end. It’s more than likely that Google sees AI as fundamental to its future growth and relevance.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 2 hours ago

Really enjoying watching Ed level up from week to week. The Zingularity is Near.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Man, it's almost like hollowing out the core value centers of a company in search of short-term growth will leave an empty dying husk that can neither serve in new markets nor continue to exist in their previous niche.

If only there had been some kind of warning about the consequences of this management style. Hey, how's GE doing these days again?

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

It's not that the money is unaware this kills the business. They know. They don't care because their process is business-agnostic. By design and intent they extract value from the business like it was a capri sun pouch and when line no longer goes up, it's discarded for the next one.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 3 hours ago

I think this is the second or third time that either Ed or somebody on his Discord reminded me about Shingy

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In other news, there's been a statement on AI training that's racked up over 10k signatures, which is unsurprisingly lambasting the rampant stealing that went into creating the autoplag machines:

Now, I'm way too much of a fan of sidenotes, so I'll whip one out:

Beyond simple content theft being publicly lambasted, I suspect that even licensed use of artists' work for gen-AI will ignite some controversy - if Eagan Tilghman's run-in with controversy last year is any indication, any usage of gen-AI, regardless of context, will be met with hostility.

[–] FRACTRANS@awful.systems 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

the Determinate Nix move was such an obvious next step I was convinced they had already done it; I guess they can let the mask fall off now that they’ve consolidated their control over the community. as was pointed out on mastodon, Determinate Systems previously promised this wasn’t their goal, which goes to show how much a promise from a fascist is worth.

fortunately it seems like Lix has a NixOS fork on the horizon? I only know about it because the “just fork it or shut up” assholes are now complaining that a fork’s happening (which they seem to only know about by obsessively monitoring Lix’s git forge — I don’t think there’s been an announcement yet)

[–] FRACTRANS@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I do hope Lix sticks around and flourishes

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 hour ago

I hope so too! I like their approach so far, and a NixOS fork by the same folks seems like something I’d switch to as soon as I reasonably could

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 7 hours ago

Parents Sue School That Gave Bad Grade to Student Who Used AI to Complete Assignment

An old and powerful force has entered the fraught debate over generative AI in schools: litigious parents angry that their child may not be accepted into a prestigious university.

The tabloids are gonna be going nuts over this.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 14 hours ago (4 children)
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

poor Musky lost custody. Couldn’t handle Grimes, now he mangles rhymes.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

We're gonna have enough material for a Elon diss track at this rate

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 9 hours ago

just imagining what happens the day his companies get taken away from him

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"Life, it never die

Women are my favorite guy."

Wonder what is up with the folks and them getting into rhymes/poetry. Jordan B Peterson does something simple (his pinned tweet as example here. But we know he fried parts of his brain using the russian coma rehab method.

And it isn't even the Sinterklaas period yet. No need for bad rhymes. (I'm also suddenly reminded of all the people who tried to 'rap' their messages in the late 90s).

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well my name is Jordan and I’m here to say/ we’re just like lobsters in a major way

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 9 hours ago

"cooked, and (politically) red as fuck"?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I can pull finer bars out my arse than this fucking farce

This is probably Grok - creativity from him's pretty sparse

Choom thinks he's DOOM, but he won't beat him any time soon

With how much crack this whack goes through, he'll forget this before noon

(I'm no MF DOOM, but anything I can put out will beat this artless twat any day)

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Religion is the opium of the masses

And I'm increasingly scared they're gonna kick our asses

Maybe it's time for all those mugs

To shut up and start hitting drugs

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

guest star of recent sneers kache is at it again

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Update: The QRTs are mainly sneering, but this one's particularly good

EDIT: Against my better judgment, I'm letting another sidenote come out:

If you wanna encourage people to drop the master/slave naming scheme, this guy probably gave you a good bit of ammo. Changing a random naming scheme is a pretty low-priority task under most circumstances, but it gets a lot more tempting when it lets you distance yourself from people like this

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more "master copy" or "master recording" than "master of a slave". This isn't IDE. Who names their VCS branch "slave"?

Well, I guess that guy does.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

the thing is that the git branch naming was only one of the places among many where this was changed, and in many databases (and often other server-subsystem architectures) master/slave terminology was quite present. iirc there are still some that stick by it today (mostly out of direct choice by project maintainers)

it’s the same thing as whitelist/blacklist, vs allowlist/denylist (or others) - when there’s bad shit linked in baggage, and the cost of changing it (by habit and choice) isn’t all that much, there’s not really any reason to hold by the the old loaded shit

harm reduction comes in many forms

Yeah. I remember when the company I used to work for switched our style guide to allowlist/denylist and apart from That One Guy the overall reaction was a big "eh? sure, whatever". Nobody is out here pretending that this kind of change is going to completely end racism or even that it's going to have a major impact, but past a certain point continuing to casually throw the memory of chattel slavery around is just cringe.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago

Note that I was specifically talking about branch names in Git, where it's debatable if the default name "master" even originated from the master/slave nomenclature.

The problematic nature of the term is a lot more evident in other contexts where a counterpart of the "master" is in fact called a "slave". Whether that's reason enough to change the names in any particular instance is not something I'll comment on.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 4 hours ago

I found the git master branch naming controversy a bit misguided, since to my mind the analogy was more “master copy” or “master recording” than “master of a slave”. This isn’t IDE. Who names their VCS branch “slave”?

In a better world, this would've probably been a solid argument for letting the master/slave naming convention stick around. We don't live in a better world.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

This guy would be a lot happier if someone had given him a pound of weed when he was 12 then introduced him to college football fandom.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Don't drink and tweet people.

E: my reaction to the people saying 'it is bait'

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 15 hours ago

Dude is about 3 years too late but I guess it's always 8 o'clock in the outrage store.

For reference, HN went wild on this submission from a pretty obvious 4chan troll (the self-described "Black developer" just so happened to include references to a Stormfront post (since removed)):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26487854

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 16 hours ago

just imagine the kinda thinking that goes into even "I can make this post for fun, that'll be a gas"

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 13 points 22 hours ago

This is both old news and kinda… not that surprising when you think about it, but I searched and didn’t see any commentary on this here.

Meta has hired a former Project 2025 staffer and Ron DeSantis chief of staff as its director of public policy in the South.

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