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EA Anti-Cheat arrives for Battlefield 1 breaking it on Steam Deck / Linux (www.gamingonlinux.com)

submitted 1 week ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 80 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay let's have a rational thought experiment:

On the one hand, BF1 was never advertised as being Linux compatible.

On the other hand, EA has retroactively changed the terms of the sale in such a way that breaks the game, ruins the experience, solves nothing, has extremely questionable security implications, and you who paid for the game did not consent to.

Personally I think they should have to refund games for this and Valve needs to put their foot down and be good stewards for the community.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly Valve needs to have a policy for this. If a game that once worked on Steamdeck and now no longer works after publisher intervention then refunds need to be issued. I have BF2042, BFV and BF1 and 1 was the LAST one I could still play on Linux. Now I have 3 digital paperweights that I can't play anymore. I want my money back.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 23 points 1 week ago

If a game that once worked on Steamdeck and now no longer works after publisher intervention then refunds need to be issued.

If it's up to me I would leave SteamDeck out of it altogether. If the publisher changes the terms of sale in any way, it should be refundable. But at the very least, if you bought it on SteamDeck and it later stops working on SD, I would agree and would add that as well. But Valve would have a hard time enforcing that against the publisher since, again, it was never advertised as supported by anyone but Valve.

Of course, then we have to have a deeper discussion about things like game-breaking updates, so ultimately Valve needs to serve as not only legislator but as the judge, jury and executioner as well.

It's complicated.

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Worth trying to refund. I read they refunded owners of GTAV when a similar situation happened.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago

I tried, unfortunately my purchase was a 4-pack deal and Steam couldn't refund mine separately from the other three licenses. shrug

[+] paraphrand@lemmy.world -7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Solves nothing” is a stretch. These companies don’t still apply anti-cheat because it does nothing.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't just do nothing. They know for sure it does nothing, is not theoretically capable of doing more than nothing to prevent cheating, and that it is a giant security hole.

They just don't care, because it lets them install a rootkit on your computer.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh, so it does nothing, and it’s a conspiracy to rootkit your computer so they can do other things(?). I see.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

It does nothing to prevent cheating because cheating does not require access to your computer.

The fact that they're rootkits is not a conspiracy. It's not a secret that they have kernel access.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Maybe Valve needs to stop pushing updates for things they certified working until they certify the update won't break them.

Never understood why Steam forces updates, but this would be a very good reason for them to do a 180 on it and let customers choose the version they want instead of forcing an update to the latest.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bf4 next?

Remember folks... If you got it on steam, you can try to get s refund 🐸

[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would this replace the existing PunkBuster?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no idea... good point, i bet it would require more work. was BF4 last PB game?

[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

was BF4 last PB game?

I think that was Battlefield Hardline, but I could be wrong.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is EAAC similar to EAC where we’ll need a specifically compiled glibc?

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Nope, it's completely proprietary, there's no flag to flip for proton. It's just borked on the deck now.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it is then.