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I would argue both more than readily pay for themselves just based off three data points.

  1. Food stamps alone provide an immediate 170% return in economic activity. This doesn't factor in the benefit of addressing malnutrition or second hand factors like stress from scarcity or poverty PTSD. People without money can't participate. Giving them food money is a net cascade of good.

  2. The post office is one of the most sophisticated, accomplished, amazing, shoe string budget endeavors of humanity and despite constant right wing sabotage of both flavors still out performs private alternatives in terms of cost and performance with headcount. Making the post office not only a community credit union but a regional job board hub would be minor in terms of the staggering return in two generations.

  3. I'm on the board of a municipal utility. Our private competition will raise rates 15-25% to our 4-6%. We don't spend millions in advertising, we actually are pushing the gm to add head count because we fear burn out, we as a board give raises better than we got at our jobs, but they're still making under private sector- but our every service metric is superior.

The biggest problems with most systems are wholly intentional sabotage to justify further undermining programs that cost rich people money and make poor people more self sufficient.

It would be real easy to make a block chain based committee forum used for everything from local ordinances and sourcing legislation to sharing recipes and electing leaders. It's becoming less true, but Reddit is great for having the right person that can identify the vintage of the wine simply based off the cork in the dude's butthole.

Crowd sourcing information gets better the more capable the crowd. Our nation has been sabotaging education for decades specifically because they don't want literate masses.

Ultimately, the most significant impediment to either isn't funding; it's the fascists in power that spent the last century working towards a gullible and economically desperate working class Molotov they could chuck at FDR's legacy.

Ubi is the opposite of their goals and work camps will keep everyone plenty busy.

[–] Pyro@leminal.space 1 points 2 months ago

Combining UBI and a job guarantee sounds promising in theory, but it’d be difficult to implement in practice. Funding both would pose significant challenges, and managing two overlapping programs would likely turn into a logistical nightmare.