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As a landlord (I own two properties) and as someone who also works full time I agree with him.

It may take up some time but ultimately it's an investment.

Landlords like myself aren't (typically) struggling, so we should pay more tax, especially now as the country needs it. I am proud to say I don't tax dodge and pay what I owe. But unfortunately there are many loopholes that can be exploited to avoid paying tax. Just a few weeks ago someone was telling me how I should put my properties under a LTD company to avoid paying tax (I didn't and won't). I hope the Labour government does more to close these loopholes for tax dodgers.

Owning shit isn't working. Why is this controversial?

That is correct. They might work, but in context they are not “working people”

Here “working people” is synonymous with “working class”. Thus, not landlords and shareholders obviously

Based from Starmer there.

Landlords and shareholders aren't working people.

Comrade Starmer lmao

He's right though. I'd very much like a PM to take a hard line on these chuckle fucks.

Truth hurts I guess.

That may be the first thing he said that I agree with him on ever.

I dont often agree with this Tory in disguise, but in this case he's right.

I mean, he's right. The whole point of my mother leveraging her home to become a landlord back then was because she had a stroke and literally could-not-work. Landlords aren't working class. They're just investors.

Of course they're not working people. They are leveraging capital to give them an income. That is not the same as chopping wood and carrying water.

And, as everyone here says. He is correct. It is an investment. Not work. Yes you are taking a risk, that is the point. If you work, you should not be taking a risk. But instead paid for your labour.

Unfortunately, saying it here doesn't matter. Papers like the telegraph and other Tory press are not going to care about the facts. They only care about creating division.

More importantly, Starmer et al. Are also not going to make the effort to argue this case. No effort is going to be made to push forward the true difference between working class income and actual investment income.

Anyone watching saw this argument starting during the election. It was clear then when labour started talking about working taxes. The Tories instantly started arguing that the Tories were talking about not raising taxers at all. Anyone watching saw this discussion forming.

And Starmer et al. intentionally ignored it rather than draw attention to the difference. They will not bother to fight the terminology now either.

Because he is correct

Rare Starmer W

They do no labor, they create no good, they accomplish no service. Literal rent-seeking.

Well I remember when I used to rent I don't remember my landlord ever doing anything. He owns the property but he certainly didn't maintain it.

I don’t know why they seem to think they are. Yes some landlords do labor, but that labor is to maintain and improve value of their income from owning things.