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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago

May as well throw in a unicorn and two perpetual motion machines.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Sounds like Russia is already expecting hyperinflation

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure, but that might exceed the total monetary value of the entire solar system if completely disassembled and sold as raw material. Anybody wanna try and do the math? Cause I know I can't.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Most countries in the world are party to the Outer Space Treaty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

Article II

Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.

Basically, all countries realistically capable of trying to enforce such a claim are party to the treaty.

So as things stand, nobody can really own any celestial bodies outside Earth.

I imagine that if humanity survives and spreads and starts to have interest in resources elsewhere, that that may change, but as things stand, the effective value of everything up there is pretty much zero, because you can't own anything other than spacecraft that you launch.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes, I'm aware of the treaty, but that thing won't be worth the paper it's written on if the billionaires think they can have their own asteroids.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

L0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000L

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

LMAA,AAAO I'm adopting the long word seperator

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago

Yeah? Well I fine Russia $20 Googol Plex Decillion!

So there!

[–] crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago

I have a feeling there aren't that many dollars

[–] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On one hand, fuck Russia.

On the other hand...

The court imposed a fine of 100 thousand rubles ($1,025) per day, with the total fine doubling every week.

...I really wish western governments had the balls to impose fines like this on tech companies when they engage in actual fuckery.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That "fuckery" was blocking Russian propaganda on YouTube due to US sanctions.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I know; I wrote "actual" fuckery to contrast with that.

I would like to see Google punished with weekly-doubling fines for the things it actually deserves to be punished for, as opposed to blocking Russian propaganda, which it does not deserve to be punished for.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this.

What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit.

Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 hours ago

Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit.

Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality".

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fines need to be payable, otherwise they are a joke. A large chunk of global revenue GDPR-style is reasonable because it really hurts the profits but it's still small enough that the company can pay it, and it will incentivize the company to change their practices. If the company (or anyone) gets a fine they can't pay they will just ignore it, so it only makes sense if you want to kick out the company out of your country, in which case you should skip the extra steps.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago
[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 35 points 1 day ago

russia is such a deeply unserious country

[–] jockets@feddit.org 8 points 21 hours ago

To put that into perspective, the World Bank estimates global GDP as around $100 trillion, which is peanuts compared to the prospective fine. Google would therefore have to find more money than exists on Earth to pay Moscow

Yeah, uhm... let's get into a 1000x more severe depression than 1929 to get the money printed, eh?

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

"we need money to fund our special military operation kthxbye"

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Headline writer should have learned scientific notation

[–] tal@lemmy.today 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that it's more impactful this way.

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago

And not everyone will understand scientific notation unfortunately.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia is doing so well with its invasion that it can issue multi-million dollar fines.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess technically that's multi-million...

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Trillions of millions, if you will.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To put that into perspective, the World Bank estimates global GDP as around $100 trillion, which is peanuts compared to the prospective fine. Google would therefore have to find more money than exists on Earth to pay Moscow

I'm not sure that GDP is the best number to use here. That's annual economic activity. I'd think that that wealth would be more-interesting.

According to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth

...total global household wealth in 2022 -- which I imagine is closer to what one wants -- is about $454 trillion.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just 440528634361233480160 times the global wealth. Sounds like a reasonable value, decided by a judge that was definitely not drunk.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's getting close to googleplex rubles!

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had just given Putin tree fiddy the week before

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Why did you give him tree fifty? Now hes gunna be coming back invading other countries for another 3 fiddy

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does anyone know the name of the number with that many zeroes?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

First sentence of the article: A Russian court has ruled that Google owes Russian media stations around $20 decillion in fines for blocking their content, and the fines could get bigger.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

So no one? I assume that’s what you said tbh I didn’t read the whole thing.

[–] CaptainSkipper@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] SilverCode@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago

Sheesh, well why don't they just say that in the first paragraph of the article /s