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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They're being ironic and edgy. Probably.

The question is only whether you consider ironic racism (in this case mocking 19th and 20th century "race science" with reversals of focus) to be racism regardless.

I don't think so, but there's also always elements of Poe's Law to consider. Not to mention that, for example, British and American racists literally said these things unironically about Germans, reaching fever pitches in WW1.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you say any group of people are prone to rape because of their brains, then that is racist.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you, for example, think Robert Downey Jr's blackface in Tropic Thunder was racism or a criticism of racism?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did he say 'the African American brain is prone to sexual assault'?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is one of the traditional meanings of blackface, yes.

It's also clear that the intended meaning of the act is innately critical of that mentality.

If you disagree that it is acceptable that's valid but ignoring that the act was at least an attempt at well intentioned criticism is just dishonest.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of fucking course you're here with a heaping helping of terrible opinions.

Thanks for sharing, but my doctor said I should avoid false-pretenses used to destroy honest discussion.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Feel free to block me, it's not like you've ever said anything of value so neither of us will miss anything.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

I can BLOCK people?!?!

Oh boy it's like Christmas 🥳

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We all know words can't really express sarcasm or other underlying feelings or meanings very clearly. Without a /s your only able to assume if the they did or didn't actually mean that.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, but there's enough social context going on to generally assume that stans for the philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles probably don't actually consider Germans a form of untermensch.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Most of them aren't actual Marxists, that's a facade for them to spread disinformation and divisive content.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You should look at US WWII propaganda cartoons. It is very "interesting"

During that time the US rounded up all Asians and put them in internment camps for "there own safety." Let's just say they didn't feel very safe living in a prison. I actually knew someone who grew up in one of the internment camps. She didn't want to talk about the experience so I'm assuming it was unpleasant.

Long story short is that no country is free from the danger of race theory.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

During that time the US rounded up all Asians and put them in internment camps for “there own safety.”

Japanese-Americans only. Chinese-Americans were actually highly praised by US propaganda of the time.

Racism is arbitrary and insane.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter their political system or economic alignment, authoritarians always look for unproven or racist ideas to divide others away from themselves. It doesn't matter what race or for which political idea, racism is always bad and corrupts all ideas.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It’s easier than accepting that all people are capable of good and evil. It’s so easy to decide villains are born that way because then the targets are easy and you’re definitely a good person.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m just going to continue to be happy I don’t know what Hexbear is…

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You've likely interacted with some of their terminally-online dungeon denizens before. They have authoritarian takes that would embarrass fascists, but they call everyone else Nazis. Truly a special and unique crowd over there.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know what could be worse than fascists

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Fascists cosplaying as auth-commies cosplaying as anarcho-commies.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably best to add it to your instance blocklist now and nip that shit in the bud before you do.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

They actually have some reasonable people though so I don't see a need to block the entire instance. (They know Linux, self hosting and privacy pretty well.)