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[–] horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 minutes ago

I am waiting for the non-destructible forever Toyota tank. Just make sure insurgents dont get their hands on one.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

The next-generation tank will have stronger preemptive strike capabilities using an artificial intelligence-based fire control system

Well that's disturbing. I wonder what level of buzz word AI this is? Safe to assume computer vision is involved, target/threat identification... Does "preemptive strike" imply the fire control system is firing by itself? I know it's not the case but it's hilarious to imagine it's ChatGPT doing it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Hyundai?

Yes, Hyundai.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Capable of the highest next-generation turret toss!

[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 19 points 14 hours ago

Can't wait to see what the N-Line will look like

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Holy fuck that's a sexy tank

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is what I wish the cyber truck was more like ... Not that I would ever buy a Tesla but this thing is perfect for futuristic... Now make it a car... But also fuck cars

[–] horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago

What if it had hydrogen cells instead?

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

It looks like a miniature

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 hours ago

it looks like a bastard kid of PL01 and Abrams-X

[–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 119 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Famously transporting large volumes of hydrogen has never gone wrong and hydrogen charging stations have proven very reliable and also hydrogen as an alternative to electric is definitely not a ploy by big oil to keep drilling for fossil fuels!

Good job hyundai 👍 Very credible 👍🏿

[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Military vehicles are purpose built. They didn't use hydrogen because it was green, they used it to fulfill their requirements for a silent stealth battle tank. But I'm sure your technical knowledge far outdoes that of the people involved in designing this tank 👍 Very credible 👍🏿

Fuel cell technology will also dramatically reduce the noise the tank generates when on the move.

Literally from the article you failed to open.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My dude, the military transports more volatile materials than hydrogen every day. Just because something doesn't make sense for civilian use doesn't mean it's never going to be viable for military use.

If you're worried about the dangers of transporting something like hydrogen, you're going to lose it when you find out what bombs are made out of.

Electric motors are just more efficient in just about every way at scale, the current diesel motors being used in tanks aren't really able to be improved upon. They're at their technological peak, so the only way to move forward with mbt is by figuring out how to make electric motors work.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

An unarmed bomb can be dropped from cruising altitude onto a hard surface and not detonate. The US military has had nukes fall out of planes without breaching the radioactive core.

Also, the energy density of hydrogen is pretty poor, diesel electric hybrid on the other hand is a proven technology.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 73 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

No no, it’s credible because it decreases the ground weight, and if you fill it up enough, it can just float over AT mines 🤓

From Hyundai to Hindenburg very fast 👏 👏 👏

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Science man smart!

[–] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Heh yeah, though it’s also an Iain M. Banks reference

[–] eggymachus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I kind of lost track of his books in the early 2000s, but they're still among my favorites. Gone too soon :/

Absolutely. I was heartbroken when he passed :(

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes that is the sound that the compressor makes when it puts the hydrogen in

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 38 points 23 hours ago (23 children)

In the case of military vehicles, hydrogen is about the greenest option that we're gonna get. No one is going to make a battery powered AFV, because where the fuck would you charge it?

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 38 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (9 children)

Who if not the Germans built an electric tank in 2020 https://efahrer.chip.de/news/geraeuschlose-einsaetze-weltweit-erster-elektro-panzer-kommt-aus-deutschland_103179

Sounds crazy at first but comes with some good advantages: it can cross rivers as it doesn’t need air for combustion, it’s silent, and you can load it anywhere at the battle field if you have solar panels, time and sun. Still you can rely on military logistics to carry a swap battery. But isn’t the military supply chain the first target to disrupt? My two cents, this is the next thing at battle fields.

Oh, and if all your equipment runs on electricity, you can load and reload power at your needs. Tank needs power but car not? Combat robot out if power and car is full? Transfer the power

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

And if your tank is electric, it can be modified later with a small nuclear or fusion reactor.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 17 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly if MILITARY applications are what kicks renewable energy and mass storage into high gear, I won't be surprised, but I will be disappointed.

But hey, improvement is still improvement and if a military organization sees renewable as the future, they're gonna try to make sure they get there first. As long as whoever gets there shares the progress with the rest of the world, I'm okay with it.

But who am I kidding, it's gonna be China or the US and the rest of the world won't see shit for decades due to suppression of research and technology that would allow for similar specs to be achieved privately...

... How credible is my aluminum foil hat guy?

I must admit though, it'd be cool to see an armored combat battery sliding across a field to quick charge a tank that died mid-battle. 10 seconds of charging to get it up and running, and the battery moves to the next low power thing. I'm imagining a semi-autonomous hot-swap of a battery compartment and eventually recharging like modern airplane mid-air refueling. Insert Rod A into Slot A and wait a little bit. The faster they want it to charge, the more they'll dump into R&D.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Any reasonably sized pv installation near a battlefield will definitely not look suspicious on reconnaissance images.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago

You think less suspicious than these huge petrol storages in a city?

PV can be dismantled, if needed. I bet it’s even cheaper to replace when destroyed compared to petrol storage. Anyway, future will tell

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's beautiful and I want one.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Maybe Pepsi will do a new challenge

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It looks like a piece of EGO brand lawn equipment (which I also like the look of).

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Does noise really matter that much on a modern battlefield with one surveillance drone every 200 meters?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Most NATO countries are assuming air dominance, which would make drones less survivable. They really thrive in a contested environment.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 61 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

the other feature is low to no heat, so these things are like tank drop bears

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, it would make them a lot harder to spot on infra red cameras.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 36 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

drop bears

Instance checks out

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Pretty chill for the operators at least. Tanks are loud as fuck

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If in video standards the decision made by the porn industry is decisive, I believe that in the energies of the future the decision made by the military industry will be the one that prevails.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The navies of the world love nuclear power, the U.S. has a nuclear navy since the 50s and in that time our investment into civilian nuclear has been pathetic

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

For ships it may be fine, but I don't see ground vehicles or fighters operating with nuclear energy, it could be, but until I see it I will have a hard time believing it.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'll eat my socks if hydrogen powered tanks are actually purchased by any military. Hydrogen will literally never be a viable transportation fuel

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