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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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Some of the many species Jeffrey Combs has evolved into:

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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My maiden name was awful to have. Other people liked it because it looked cool, but it was a hassle for everything even in the US, where at least part of it was well known. I then moved to Germany, where it was just totally foreign.

My married name is under three syllables (vs more than eight), easy to spell, and sounds as German as possible. My husband would have loved to take my last name, but we couldn’t do it the way we wanted to (German naming laws 🙃). I would really have liked to at least have been able to keep my maiden name as a middle name, but alas.

I still feel very weird (about a year out) about it, but there are way more good feelings than bad.

However, it’s really annoying that people now assume I’m German. I put in a shit load of work to learn German well as an adult, and my strongest skill is in pronunciation. That combined with my name means people think I’m just a native German who’s bad at grammar, and they don’t correct me anymore.

I always wanted to blend in as a native, I just didn’t think about the middle stretch where I just seem a bit dumb to others, both because of the language and cultural things that people now expect me to know (I thought it was called handkäse because you can eat the little rounds straight from the hand, no need for bread, until last year).

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I have a German surname, but my family changed the pronunciation to sound lest German during WWII so now Germans pronounce it "wrong" and no one else can pronounce it at all.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

I read most of my news, so it took about a month to realize the VP candidates last name was pronounced “Walls,” so you’re among company.

I’m from Connecticut, which has a town called Berlin, pronounced BURR-lun (/‘bərlən/). That , like the pronunciation of many German-origin names, was changed during WWII, but it’s basically a shibboleth for locals now, like Houston Street.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

I'm in Indiana and half of our place names are pronounced incorrectly.

Ver-sayles (Versailles)
Rooshaville (Russiaville)
Pee-ru (Peru) Kay-roh (Cairo)

And, of course, we're the home of the University of Note'r Daym.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (1 children)

How normal is a maiden name? I thought mostly Christians did it. In a lot of cultures surname is just a father's name, so maiden concept never made sense to me.

Edit: confused maiden name with husband name.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't know what you think a maiden name is, but it is her father's surname.

It's a 'maiden name' because you're supposed to keep it until you're married, at which point you're no longer a maiden and you take your husband's name.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sorry English is not my first language. I meant to ask, how common it is to change surname to husband one.

I think the wife should get to keep her surname because like I said in most cultures surname is a father/family name so once married, your father or family you were born in doesn't change.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would like some evidence that is true about "most cultures."

Wikipedia sure doesn't suggest that's true. If anything, it varies a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maiden_and_married_names

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (1 children)

Reread my comment."most" was used while referring to surname being a father/family name. Don't need Wikipedia to know that.

And my comment was doing the opposite of what you are alleging. I'm asking how common are husband names(that wives get). It is very clearly a question and not an imposition.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I see, this is just how you think the world should work. I guess you'll have to learn to live with the disappointment that it doesn't.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I just see it as a hassle. Like why even bother? She would have to explain why she wants to take my name and I would try talking her out of it "What if we get a divorce in 7 years or so? Do you just have to change it back then?" I'm sure that would go over well

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Marrying Jeffery Combs is like marrying 300 men at the same time, though. Every day he can just act like a different alien.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago

" I don't know who you are anymore!
I love it!"

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

You can't expect a regressive to understand evolution. They are going backward faster than the rest of us are moving forward.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

My fiance and I are considering creating a brand new last name that we both take.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

You can share mine. Personally I don't like it, but maybe you will.

[–] sdfric88@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 10 hours ago

I recommend Dax

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Hot tip, change HIS last name prior to the wedding and she gets the name change free.

I know a couple that waited until after the wedding to do that and the husband changed his name, then the wife was given the option of keeping her old name, or switch to his old name.

She ended up having to go through the entire name change process without the benefit of the auto-name flip from the marriage.

This is really interesting, because in my state in Australia, this process isn't gendered at all. The man can take the woman's name just as easily, same with same-sex marriages.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 9 hours ago

Warning: Taken from decades-old memories of things that I wasn't involved in or paying much attention to! Anyway...

In Virginia a man sued the state like 30 years ago because they wanted to charge him to change his name, when a woman could change her name free when she got married. The state could either have charged women or made it free for all. They chose the later.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm pretty sure both of us had the option of changing our names when we got married and when we got divorced.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've known other people who do that.

I just feel like any name change that you don't need (i.e. you're transitioning) is just more bother than it's worth.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's what we are running into. The marriage forms here in NC make it simple to take the husband's last name as part of the process, but any other kind of change requires a lot of crazy, expensive, and time consuming steps.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

I wonder if there's an opening there to claim discrimination on the basis of sex.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I got the biggest hassle from Delta Airlines on my stupid Skymiles account.

[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

There are tons of reasons why one might not want to change their name. At a minimum you have to send a form to the state, update any licenses you have, contact your banks, your insurance, your place of work... Best case scenario it's an annoying hassle to deal with.

Was I appreciative when my wife took my name? Sure. But that's mostly because we also share the same first name so it's hilarious to share the same last name. But I told her many times before we got married she didn't need to do it. I never expected that out of her.

If having a matching name is a big deal with you, then you can change your name.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

My wife meant to take my name, but then we never did the paperwork. So we just left it.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

If having a matching name is a big deal with you, then you can change your name.

'Why should I have to change? He's the one who sucks!' -Michael Bolton

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago

You both share three same first name as well? That sounds very confusing for your peers

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[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 82 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

There are lots of reasons for women to keep their maiden name. In the case of my wife, she had two good ones:

  1. She didn't want to become disassociated from her scientific publications.

  2. She didn't want to complicate or redo any immigration paperwork.

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[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 137 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Women, don't marry men who won't take your name. That's a wall of separation he wants to keep between you. It won't be the only one.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

I took my wife's name when we got married. I hate my family and intended to change my last name anyway. Her family is awesome. It was an easy choice.

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I only recently found out he was Brunt as well as Weyoun. And had no idea about the others. (I still haven't gotten around to Enterprise.) What a talented guy!

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

BRUNT, FCA

DS9 casually nailing it with ferengi actors. Even the cousin was great

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

What the fuck makes my name any better than hers? Fuck my name. I don't even want it.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

It's fiancée. Fiancé is male.

[–] thatsTheCatch 17 points 16 hours ago

Today I Learned! I had no idea there was a difference. Apparently they are pronounced the same, it's only a written difference.

But it seems like in English fiancé is becoming a gender neutral term

Dictionary.com — Fiancé vs Fiancée

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