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[โ€“] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Lifespans are certainly longer considering McCoy is still up and walking around near the start of TNG. ๐Ÿ˜’ Keiko being Keiko once again...

[โ€“] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Keiko being Keiko once again...

A shape edged but reasonable person? A flat out "good takes" machine that doesn't know the main characters are Mary sues immune from real consequences?

[โ€“] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

It's all the same generation as far as Tuvok is concerned.

[โ€“] negativenull@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

and where exactly are Deep Space 1-8?

[โ€“] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We don't talk about Deep Space 1-8.

[โ€“] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

I'll have you know that Mariner saw the Zebulon Sisters do the Chu Chu Dance on Deep Space 3.

[โ€“] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Also, Space Station Regula 1 implies there were other Regulas. What were they up to?

It was the first of a proposed 15, but budget cuts led to them all being canceled except the first.

[โ€“] criitz@reddthat.com 9 points 12 hours ago

The Next Generation [to Get Their Own TV Show]

[โ€“] wjrii@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The interim generations were, sadly, found not to be Trek worthy.

[โ€“] GraniteM@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"You are Star Trek, but we do not grant you the rank of Generation."

[โ€“] Stiffneckedppl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

How can you be Star Trek and not be a Generation?!

[โ€“] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

After Khan and his augments, I can see how the rest of humanity deemed hum drum.

[โ€“] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The actual answer is that thr next generation being referred to is the generation watching the show. Their parents grew up watching the original, and now they are watching Star Trek for their generation.

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it was just the next generation/iteration of the show. They played around with Kirk and Spock at the academy and Captain Sulu and probably some other ideas. I think Greenfield like they did was the correct path.

[โ€“] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Generations and the boundaries for how they are defined is a social construct, regular intervals by years? Distinct by some major event or phenomenon? Perhaps it had been one generation by TNG norms

[โ€“] Sertou@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

There were 3 generations of starships named Enterprise between TOS and TNG. Surely that's the most relevant measure of a generation for Star Trek.

[โ€“] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

A "generation" is colloquially ~14-20 years, and "several" means 7+. Keiko's high as balls again. ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

edit: if "several" generations "by any reckoning" were able to fit into ~85 years' time, it would require 10yr olds becoming parents in each generation, consecutively. What the actual, Keiko. Words matter. Ew.

[โ€“] criitz@reddthat.com 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Personally I think "several" could be as few as like, 3

[โ€“] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

3 is a few, several has got to be 4+

[โ€“] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with the poster below, in that they're ambiguous terms used interchangably, descriptive linguistics and whatnot. But in my brain, they're hard coded as couple=2, few=3, several=4+, a bunch= 10 or more, but not 12. Can me 10, 11, 13+, but can't specifically be 12. That's a dozen.

[โ€“] criitz@reddthat.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with these, except I would use a bunch to mean as low as say, 5 or 6. Like a bunch of bananas at a grocer.

[โ€“] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago

I could get behind this. The low end of a bunch isn't as clearly defined in my head as the others. So long as it isn't precisely 12, it's okay. Lol. Also, 6 is often "half dozen" but not always.

[โ€“] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

TBF, even three "generations" in that span assumes parenthood by 28 (2021: 30, FYI), and 4+ generations by 7 years apiece โ€” putting it well beyond reality "by any reckoning".

[โ€“] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] criitz@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

Haha, sorry! I know people like to give very specific meanings to words like a few, several, or some, but colloquially to me they are intentionally ambiguous and all basically mean "a small amount, more than 2"

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Now I wonder how Lower Decks call the TNG people.

[โ€“] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I missed something, but how can it be 85 years apart since Scotty was on TNG.

[โ€“] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In that episode, they find Scotty trapped in a transporter buffer.

But they also had a super old Dr. McCoy in one of the first episodes, so maybe lifespans are longer too.

[โ€“] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He was like 130 in that episode. He was also the last remaining crewman of the original Enterprise, as far as we know.

[โ€“] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

But he didn't feel a day over 100.

[โ€“] pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

It would make sense that future medical enhancements would prolong lifespans significantly, especially given that (depending on the episode) they've cured things like the common cold and headaches.