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Summary

Kamala Harris’s political skills have transformed a potentially disastrous 2024 presidential election into a competitive race.

Despite initial skepticism and a challenging campaign, Harris has improved her public image and closed the gap with Trump on key issues. Since Biden stepped aside in July and endorsed her, she has shifted from an unpopular vice president to a viable candidate, even matching Trump in polls on economic issues.

Her leadership has given Democrats a chance to prevent a Trump landslide and halt the rise of American authoritarianism.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 307 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

It's not a testament to her abilities, it's a depressing statement about the state of America that a convicted felon, rapist, fascist loudman can be neck and neck with probably one of the smartest, most highly accomplished presidential candidates we've had in quite a while

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I blame stupid voters AND Republicans trying to pull of a coup through voter suppression.

Up next, endless court cases in an attempt to get SCOTUS to hand over the election to Trump.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I blame Fox News the most for decades of right wing propaganda.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 19 points 2 weeks ago

Rupert Murdoch and the cabal

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I blame years of powerful people trying to ensure that people are not educated and are fed a diet of misinformation with a consistent narrative.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep, the truth is it shouldn't even be this close, but Kamala has moved significantly right in the last four years.

The Dem party doesn't try to get landslide victories, they want to give voters the absolute minimum they need to win. It's the only explanation for why they keep moving right after Obama's 08 landslide

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 113 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

I'd argue the opposite.

The fact that Americans are possibly still voting for someone who will bring in the Fourth Reich if elected, over the first female president is a sign of just how badly Democrats have dropped the ball. ESPECIALLY after Jan 6th.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I 100% agree except why is it that "Democrats dropped the ball"?

Democrats aren't voting for a fascist. Their politicians are not enabling a fascist. The Democratic voting base hasn't been bamboozled by 30+ years of obvious propaganda pretending to be news.

Christians dropped the ball. Conservative immigrants dropped the ball. Legit news media dropped the ball. Large corporations and wealthy individuals dropped the ball... on purpose.

Democrats work on harm reduction because we don't give them enough votes to make meaningful changes. A 1 or 2 vote margin isn't enough to vote around the moles like Manchin and Sinema.

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[–] Zess@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's not the Democrats' fault that there are so many cowardly, weak-minded, brainwashed losers in this country who fall for every bit of propaganda the GOP puts out. Politics shouldn't be about culture wars but that's how the republicans get votes.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago

You could certainly say the Democrats should have been able to come up with a better outreach plan rather than running the same old plan that hasn't penetrated into this group for the last several elections. It's not as though the culture war nonsense and insane rightwing elements of the party are novel factors, such that the Dems can shrug their collective shoulders and say "Hey, we did our best, be we were flying blind into the unknown."

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

It is the Democrats fault that there are so many cowardly, weak-minded losers in charge of the party though.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

The Democrats are responsible for 50+ years of neglecting working Americans that created the culture you're complaining about.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 106 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

The fact that it's close is a testament to the idiocy and racism of the American public.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That and just a dash of sexism.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 94 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's honestly unreal that Trump is even in the race, let alone in a position to pull off a possible win. After everything that has happened. I try to keep a positive spirit in general, but it's not easy to be optimistic on behalf of the US right now.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not unreal at all. I don't understand why time after time people underestimate what monsters the average American is.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Well, now that it looks like Trump is actually going to pull it off, we're all in for a world of fun over the next four years. We might actually discover just how monstrous things will get.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

America is a fascist country and fascist leadership remains popular among enfranchised residents.

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 92 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Did she win? No? Then it doesn't fucking matter!

What? Should she be getting a participation trophy? Sorry, I can't hear you over how Ukraine is being annexed by Russia.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also it wasn't a toss up. Trump won every single swing state. All of them. This article is some mad copium. Prepare to see more of it over the next few days.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 82 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How on earth is Harris being tied with the worst presidential candidate in history spun as a good thing?

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[–] tekato@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Leave it to the modern journalist to spin a loss as a win. Comedic at best.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Panelist on pbs live election coverage was saying Harris ran a flawless campaign. They just dont get it.

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[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Why is no one discussing Dems have lost the senate and given a bigger majority in the house to Republicans. Even without Trump they are bound to control house and the senate.

Stand by for nothing happening for the next 2 years or worse.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I yearn for your optimism.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Edit: If Kamala loses, and it looks like she might, I'm blaming her and her campaign. She could have swooned the beliefs of America if she had ran on something better.

Her political skills are trash.

Kamala gained the most approved points after Biden gave her the race.

Since then, her approval rating has plummeted compared to her early numbers, and I think this is because Kamala doesn't really know what to believe.

You can see it with Tim Walz. There was a lot of momentum when Kamala took up the mantle, and that momentum was carried through once the Walz pick came out. Then, around the DNC, the campaign's tone shifted, crawling back to the ethos of the Biden administration. I think this is because Kamala couldn't decide to break away from Biden or not, and because she waited so long, she was around a lot of the same people in the Biden administration, and those people influenced her platform. You can also see this with marijuana and how she changed sides in her time between being DA and senator. Also, how she didn't really have a solid platform to begin with, which should have been established right when Walz was picked.

I'm not here to call her out as a flip flopper. I'm pointing to how she could have steamrolled this election, but chose not to. It saddened me so much when the campaign had silence Tim for his views and policies when those views and policies were the key to victory.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

It's truly embarrassing as hell to have a Democratic party that can't absolutely crush a clown like Trump. The Democratic establishment isn't just out of touch, it's weak as fuck. Yes, this is on Kamala, but it's also on Obama, and the Clintons, and Pelosi, and Schumer, and the whole "anyone but Bernie" coalition. This is the consequence of running to the center instead of tackling wealth inequality head on.

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[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

She seems to have lost worse than Hillary...

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

She was not only a women, she's a black women.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah ignore the fact that she stepped hard to the right and supported a genocide

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Think of all the Dick Cheney supporters who voted for Kamala.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

are you kidding me. how is someone like trump even able to get nominated much less win a general. satan I miss last millenium.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] superkret@feddit.org 42 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that the election is a toss-up, rather than a Harris landslide, is proof that American democracy is already fully collapsed.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would have said this aged like milk after Trump's landslide-even-the-popular-vote victory, but even milk doesn't sour this fast. This aged like unrefrigerated shellfish.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 31 points 2 weeks ago

/r/agedLikeMilk

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Close, but no cigar does not preserve actual democracy, unfortunately.

Calling yourself a democracy, and being a democracy are two very different things. The first proper word in North Korea's official country name is "Democratic", and bear in mind Russia holds "elections" as well.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am not dismissing Kamala Harris here but the Democrats could have pitted a cold cut sandwich against Trump and the race would be just as tight. This is a race between fascism and not.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

well that's not true, Biden was definitely going to lose.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

~~What's more amazing is that no one is saying "is America ready for a woman president?" this time around, like they were in 2016. It's refreshing, but also sad that it took this long.~~

Never fucking mind. At this point I decide whether suicide or applying for a green card is the easier option.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

People: "We don't want old!" Biden: "I still got this!" Debate. "Maybe I don't." Harris: "I'm not old!" People: "Good enough!"

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

No it's not, liberals tried the age old tactic of getting minorities and the working class to vote for neoliberals that have devastated their well being for 50 years because the GOP is racist, and for some reason it didn't work this time.

Y'all took the wrong lesson from COVID and 2020. It wasn't that voters were going to continue to put up with Democrat's fealty to the right and corporate donors. It was that COVID was so unprecedented that they held their nose one last time. ,

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump would be a disaster, but these last-minute hopeful headlines just smack of desperation. I just saw another one saying Harris had "suddenly jumped into the lead" because one model put here at 50.015% of the vote. It's nothing to be thrilled about, especially with the Republicans set to employ every underhanded tactic they can to steal the victory. In any normal country there would be no competition between these two, but this is the USA.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The enduring fact is that our election cycles don't have to last years. She did this in a little over 100 days.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Are you fucking kidding? This campaign has been a fucking train wreck. There was genuine excitement behind her candidacy when Biden stepped down, and Walz actually generated even more enthusiasm. Since then, she has spent every moment of the campaign killing that energy. She alienated Muslim and Arab voters by refusing to allow a Palestinian speaker at the DNC. She's alienated her progressive base by campaigning with Liz Cheney and Laura Bush to court moderate Republicans. They're literally rerunning the 2016 playbook and saying, "Yeah, but this time I've got a good feeling about it!"

I hope she wins, and if you're reading this and you haven't voted yet, please just vote for her, especially if you live in a swing state. But Jesus Fucking Christ, let's not pretend she'd even have a shot of winning if she wasn't up against a facist rapist.

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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Here’s a list of progressive policies both foreign and domestic that supermajorities of both democrats and republicans support.

What’s that? You’d rather support genocide and brag about being endorsed by Dick Cheney?

You do you, I guess……. You’ll still get your weird blue maga votes i suppose.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that you thought I would vote for a WOMAN over a Rapist Felon who Promised to create HUGE Financial Hardships while killing my Daughter is LAUGHABLE!

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