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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 134 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A man with 34 felony convictions can’t win the presidency in a nation where trust in institutions is high. It’s only in a culture where the justice system has long since lost its legitimacy that a man with such a thick criminal record as Trump glides by relatively unremarked. That one man can so effortlessly game American institutions to his own benefit says as much about the decrepit state of America’s institutions as it does about the moral decrepitude of the crook.

Well, no shit. It's the same shit that sane people have been saying for a long time. If only the media wasn't completely dominated by the billionaire class, we might actually be able to organize around collective outrage, but most people seem content to just consume whatever Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump tell them to consume and not think beyond that.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Not yet. Not for a little while. First, a few things have to happen:

  • When the Department of Education is obliterated and schools nationwide collapse, it will also cause economic turmoil, because a lot of MAGA idiots work for federally-funded school systems in red states. They just voted to have themselves fired.
  • The inevitable nationwide ban on abortion will kill a lot of women who believed it wouldn't happen and voted for him - despite how much he bragged about killing Roe.
  • Measles, mumps, and rubella will all make startling comebacks as vaccination plummets. Seriously guys, get vaccinated while you can. Oh, and COVID-19 is going to have a massive resurgence once RNA-based vaccines are banned in the United States.
  • With the purging of civil servants from the FBI, the IRS, and various other letter agencies, we're going to have a giant, stupid government staffed primarily by incompetent sycophants. Expect actual, productive work associated with any of them to grind to a halt. Expect the FBI to expend resources needlessly investigating whoever Trump hates at the moment. Expect the IRS to make mistakes that aren't in your favor, and you can't do anything about.
  • Infrastructure week will forever be in the future, while actual infrastructure will be falling apart due to lack of funding. This problem will be felt the most in red areas, despite efforts to punish blue ones for voting for Harris.
  • If you receive health care through the Affordable Care Act and you're MAGA, you'll be very surprised to learn that "Obamacare" was another name for it, and that you've just lost your health care. [insert "congratulations, you played yourself" meme here]
  • You think things are expensive now? The inevitable flood of tariffs, with no adults in the room to tell Trump it's a stupid idea, will jack your prices up enormously. If you thought COVID-19 inflation was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
  • The deeply, deeply stupid MAGA people who believed that Trump would leave their LGBTQ+ friends - well, former friends - alone will find out the hard way that voting to remove people's rights is a good way to make them disown you.

After things are going really, really badly, and there are only Republicans in government to blame, a few will begin waking up and realizing they've been had.

And by then, it will be too late.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You didn't even mention that the FTC will greenlight any merger and stop anti trust enforcement. Lina Khan did an amazing job, and that's a long term, sustainable way to keep inflation at bay. After consolidation across industries combined with tariffs, inflation will go through the roof.

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saving this for future discussions because it's absolutely spot on.

Also, for any Republicans complaining about Obamacare, kindly remind them that it was started by Republican Mitt Romney.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

At this point, Romney would have been expelled and disowned by the modern-GOP; that’s how far right the Overton window has shifted over the past decade.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Also:

  • When NOAA is dismantled, the National Weather Service gutted and privatised, the National Flood Insurance Program abolished, and FEMA ‘overhauled’, the government’s ability to predict and respond to increasing climate disasters will be severely hampered. Private insurance companies have already been fleeing at-risk areas, so the impact of future hurricane seasons will be devastating.
[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Trump will be there to throw some paper towels into a crowd. Problem solved.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just like the UK and Brexit. Both foreseeable political disasters.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Boomers have unironically marched the world off a cliff in a fit of petulance, for our grave sin of refusing to consider that the universe itself may not revolve around each of them, individually.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know how much the UK collectively regrets Brexit yet. I come from a heavily Leave voting area and it was depressing as hell being a part of the vote count. Leave, Leave, Leave, Remain, Leave, Leave, Remain. Now in the most recent election, Farage's Reform party got a concerningly high vote share, especially in areas like where I come from.

I was glad to see the Tories go, but I can't be too happy about the UK election when I consider Reform. I think back to how UKIP were like at local government level. They'd campaign on absurd promises like "we'll slash council tax and increase public services funding. Lots of things are possible if we get rid of those fat-cat Labour councillors". Then they'd get enough councillors that they could cause real harm to their constituents by obstructing progress; it helped their cause to make the Labour majority council look bad. They could promise the world because they knew that they were never going to get enough councillors to change much, so they could blame their utter failure to do anything useful once elected on Labour (in my area at least. Apparently the same playbook works in Conservative majority areas too)

Brexit was unambiguously a political disaster. Many of the people who voted Leave have been actively harmed and I can't even feel any schadenfreude at them because they haven't connected the dots there. Like, I see people having their faces eaten off by the leopards they voted for, and they're going "this is really hurting. See, this is why we needed the leopards eating faces party". It's honestly heartbreaking to witness.

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We know. Most of us already do at least. The others will follow later. But it'll be much, much too late.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They'll deny they ever voted for the guy, same as all the Republicans that suddenly realise Bush and Cheney are the worst after cheerleading for them for 8 years.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I’ll stop saying mean things about Dick Cheney if he takes trump on a hunting trip. Just saying.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kamala Harris voters, 2024: 70,356,521

People who claim to have been Kamala Harris voters, 2030: 100,000,000+

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[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately I'm not sure it's "most" hence the way the popular vote went.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Correct. Slightly more than one third of the population are still celebrating and slightly less than one third are already regretting it. Those are the two thirds who actually voted. The final third haven't actually noticed we had an election yet because they never bother to participate. If any of them pull their heads out of their asses at some point, they will likely regret it too, but I wouldn't put money on it.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, they’ll just blame it on minorities

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

They'll blame it on the Democrats, progressives, liberals, gays, trans, atheists. They blame anyone but themselves.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Narrator: They were not allowed to

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't mind the whole "our president is a felon" thing, I mind that he was able to use the smallest loophole imaginable to escape any consequences of being labeled a felon. Well, I guess the smallest loophole would have been leaving the planet, and I'm just as pissed that wasn't his exit strategy.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There was no loophole, all of it was made up and Biden refused to call their bluff.

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[–] Resand@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please, none of the problems from Trumps presidency will be his fault. It will all be blamed on Democrats/Jews

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And immigrants. And occasionally black people.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

And queer people of every variety.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

We're all gonna get what MAGAts deserve.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

*** WELCOME PAUPERS, TO THE BEGINNING OF THE NEO-MEDIEVAL ERA ***

You may now kiss the unwashed feet of your uhhh… king.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The bosses at my 3 part time jobs and my landlord are gonna get so jealous.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe, or maybe all their problems will be the Democrats fault and if it is Trump’s fault then at least his heart was in the right place

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Or if it is Trump's fault, it's actually a 4D chess move that will make things better in the end, we're just too dumb and educated to understand.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder how much of my family will die in the upcoming Holocaust. I wonder how many of them will look back at voting for Trump and realize where they went wrong. When Trump's accelerationist cohorts start trying to get Israel to burn, I wonder how many of my Israeli family members will say, "oh well, at least we got to kill lots of Palestinians. I was worried Harris might have slowed us down."

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually don't think it will, because I believe America will have stopped being the "united" states by then and it will no longer be called America.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

It will be called the Free American Independent Theocratic Hegemony according to the history books.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

America first

to go down.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Turns out the strategy of talking down to people with "this election is too important to listen to voters" didn't work. Too bad regular Americans will be saddled with the consequences while the incompetent politicians whose job is to get votes will still be sitting pretty. Looking forward to the next time I get spammed to donate to millionaires to "save democracy" while they continue ignoring voters.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

They'll regret it so much that they're not gonna elect him a second time

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