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I know you're convinced that a little cinnamon improves your chili.

You are incorrect on this conviction.

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[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 101 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Chili without beans is just spicy spaghetti sauce and I will die on that hill.

Beans belong in chili.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Beans are the foundation of chili. You can remove all the meat from a chili and still call it chili. You cannot remove all the beans and still call it chili.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes: Pinto beans are called chili beans for a goddamn reason. But also kidney beans in the mix (and black beans at least) are delicious too.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Beanless chili only works as a hot dog condiment. I don’t see the point otherwise

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Keep your head held high, my bean chili brother.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Preach it louder, so those in the back can hear it too

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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I came here looking for this and I knew Lemmy would come through for me. Thanks for passing your spark forward.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That's not completely off, but it should be dark chocolate, not milk chocolate or whatever M&M's are made with now. A little dark chocolate is great in chili.

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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Put the peeps in the chili make it taste.......... Bad.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

These rules come from the same people who put a slice of cheese on apple pie. "It adds a savory quality to all the sweetness." Fuck off, it adds the taste of cheese to apple pie. People also like mint and chocolate, maybe you should eat some M&Ms coated in Vicks vaporub

Chili is steaming dog food with too many spices and onions for dogs to eat. If you think your chili tastes better with beans or even cinnamon, then get down with your bad self. Anyone who tells you otherwise is welcome to not eat your chili.

"Syrup doesn't belong on waffles/french toast"
"Cookies shouldn't have raisins"
"You shouldn't put butter on your tortillas"
Fuck all y'all, I'mma eat my food how it tastes good and you can maybe chime in once you got a show on the food network

^I’m a Texan who will eat your chili with or without beans and I approve this message^

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a fellow member of the [If It's Delicious Who Cares If It's aUtHenTic] Club, I don't usually feed my dogs a hand selected blend of peppers and spices, but you're invited to the cookout anyways.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

I don't care how they're picked, you generally shouldn't feed peppers and spices that you'd use in chili. And never onions, garlic, or grapes regardless of the intended application.

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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Beans belong in chilli and you can wash the cast iron in the dishwasher

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I agree, but then they call that slop they put on spaghetti in Cincinnati chili and it doesn't have any beans, so I don't know what's real anymore.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

My headcanon for the invention of Cincinnati chili is that some midwestern person read that chili is "heavily spiced" and used what they had available, including cinnamon and nutmeg.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Cincinnati chili comes from Greek and immigrants fleeing the Balkan wars of the 1920's. they got off the boat in New York and saw everyone eating Coney dogs and New York style spaghetti.They then get to Ohio and figure that's what Americans like to eat, so they made a sauce using Mediterranean ingredients and flavors that they were familiar with. If they had called it anything other than chili, it would be widely regarded as Cincinnati's greatest contribution to American cuisine.

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And chocolate. Cincinatti chili is great

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[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

It's got beans of you order a 5-way like a real man

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Do whatever you want to your cast iron but stay the fuck away from mine.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whatever dude. My chili, my choice.

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[–] TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

You put the Peeps in the chili, they make the chili taste... bad.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If you use cinnamon and cloves in chili, the cinnamon and cloves should be almost undetectable. The spice is meant to provide a warm undertone.

Realistically, if you want to properly experience it, forget adding cinnamon and add good quality chorizo. It has cinnamon, but brings a lot more to the table.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So any decent garam masala will work?

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Chili is a tomato based curry and pretty much anything is acceptable if balanced properly.

  • cinnamon
  • chocolate
  • coffee
  • oregano
  • cilantro
  • cheddar
  • beer
  • bourbon
[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

According to google (and since the name implies it as well I'm inclined to believe it) it's actually a chili pepper based stew. With or without meat. Tomatoes and beans are common ingredients, but not part of the base.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You start adding chocolate and you're going into mole territory though

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[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I know the Japanese will dead ass put apple and raisins in some variations of their curry. Apple is pretty good, adds a sweetness that isn't overbearing. Raisins, though I will never understand.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A pinch of cinnamon can be pretty good in chili. Adds a certain spiciness that isn't a capsaicin feeling spice.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

If you can taste cinnamon, you put too much. It gives almost a smokiness while making the sweetness of the tomato pop. But you should use so little you worry it won't do anything.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

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[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago

"If you like beans in chili put beans in chili. If you dislike beans in chili but you dislike someone who also dislikes beans in chili more than you dislike beans in chili put beans in chili."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT3GlECfYoU

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I, as a chili bean lover who made their chili based on beans, understand this completely.

Chili should (if not vegan chili) be based around the meat. The meat and flavors should be #1 and the accoutrements should be secondary.

If vegan chili (which my mum makes and it’s SO DELICIOUS), this rule can be ignored.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: I'll put whatever I want in my spicy slop and the internet can be mad all it wants, beans are going in there.

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[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chili just needs to be hearty and filling. Meat and beans are great for this purpose. Having an appropriate ratio is important and the types of beans is also important (doubly so in vegetarian chili). Meat should be on top but shouldn't overpower everything else.

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[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There are various spices that go into chili that have been lost to time & grandfather's taking recipes to the grave. I'm ok with a little experimenting, but it should taste like Chili, not "Chili".

Also, there is a hard line in the sand at elbow noodles. That's Goulash.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago (8 children)

As a vegan it might be strange and interesting to try to replicate the "authentic" Texas Red recipes. No beans, no tomato. The basic recipe would be an almost purely pepper-based stock, probably use both Beyond Ground and diced Beyond Steak. If I recall, the most original known chili recipe called for a substantial amount of added pig fat. I'm not big on high-fat foods in the first place, so to me it's dubious whether to even include an alternative. But if I did, the most comparable choice would be coconut oil, but I avoid coconut/palm oil to the best of my ability, so probably a bit of added avocado oil would work best, though it's worth noting that Beyond products are already high in one or the other of these (avocado Beyond is best). Spices don't need to change.

But then, is that really superior chili? Sorry but midwestern bean and tomato/pepper extravaganza chili is way better, and will continue to be my main. But with some added crumbled soy curls? Gonna have to try that soon.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Vegetarian for over 20 years. Most of my chili is "leftovers chili". It's about the flavor more than the ingredients. I suppose it's more of a chili flavored goulash technically.

Usually starting with black beans, chick peas, tomatoes, peppers and chili spices. Then whatever leftovers I don't want to eat get chopped up and added. My favorite leftover is old French fries because they never reheat right anyway. Also a great way to use up produce that is going bad but not yet unsafe to eat.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I've never tried it, but I bet TVP would work pretty well in chili as a substitute for meat, at least texturewise.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cumin can add a cinnamonesque flavor to chilis, I wonder if that is where the idea of putting cinnamon in chili comes from.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I was so offended the first time I saw Ramsey make chili and added cinnamon sticks. Cumin definitely belongs in chili though.

Also bigger onion and pepper pieces mixed in, and steak instead of ground beef

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Chili is short for chili con carne, not chili con carne y frijoles. I understand competitions demanding a certain "purity." That said, I will put beans in my chili because that's what I like.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It's also not short for chili con carne y tomates, so by that logic it'd be weird to put tomatoes in there too lol

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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I put in a pinch of espresso 🤌

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is nothing that cinnamon can't improve though

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually cinnamon doesn't improve cinnamon. Anyone that's attempted to cinnamon challenge can attest to this

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[–] lemonadebunny@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the scene from The Good Place where Chidi puts peeps in his chili 1000095944

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[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
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