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A group of masked men with Nazi flags protested outside a performance of “The Diary of Anne Frank” in Howell, Michigan, shouting antisemitic slurs.

Audience members were reportedly frightened and needed escorts to their cars. The Fowlerville Community Theatre, which staged the play, described the protesters' presence as a disturbing reminder of the fear faced by Holocaust victims.

The Anti-Defamation League condemned the display. The incident follows other recent displays of racism in the area.

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[–] enbee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 208 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

shame on CNN for calling them demonstrators. Human scum is more like it.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago

Terrorists or fascists seems more appropriate.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago

They were demonstrating how they are human scum

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 29 points 2 weeks ago

Very fine people, according to the incoming president

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't they owned by the right now too?

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 147 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They had a flag! Why call them anything other than Nazis protesting outside Anne Frank theater performance? Corpo-fascist apologists.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I made a comment on another thread that seems to have been deleted for being a duplicate:

If you’re wondering why CNN is calling them “demonstrators” and not “actual fucking nazis”…

The billionaires weren’t shy about why they bought CNN:

“I would like to see CNN evolve back to the kind of journalism that it started with, and actually have journalists, which would be unique and refreshing,” he said. Then he suggested a model: “Fox News, in my opinion, has followed an interesting trajectory of trying to have ‘news’ news, I mean some actual journalism, embedded in a program schedule of all opinions.”

https://www.vox.com/2022/8/26/23322761/cnn-john-malone-david-zaslav-chris-licht-brian-stelter-fox-peter-kafka-column

And they don’t care if what they’re saying is true anymore, they care if people believe it’s true already:

Zaslav said this past week there was a new [YouGov] poll showing overall trust in the U.S. for CNN up 11 points. “That’s what we are going for. Our view is there’s advocacy networks on either side, that we have the best journalists in the world, we need to show both sides of every issue.”

https://deadline.com/2023/05/cnn-republicans-warner-bros-discovery-david-zaslav-1235371510/

When one side is literal nazis, showing both sides means treating Nazis like normal demonstrators.

None of these billionaires are buying up media to inform people, or even just to make more money.

They buy them to control the narrative. So that regardless of what party someone votes for, the wealthy always win

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Man,you're talking like it's 2016. Or even 2023.

Buckle up for the next 4+ years. Holy shit.

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only people against the genocide of Palestinians and against Zionism get to be called Nazis and anti-semites.

People waving actual Nazi flags are “free speech advocates” or “demonstrators”, and certainly not Nazis.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This article literally calls them antisemites.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 119 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

We should start beating these people who seem to think Nazis are cool. Make it painful to be a bigot.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My thoughts exactly. Make Nazis Afraid Again.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Ooh, there’s a song about that acronym!

MNAA MNAA, do do do do do

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

How about MANA?

Make
All
Nazis
Afraid

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Letting them live is too kind. People like this cannot be rehabilitated.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

As a Jew I fully understand your sentiment, but it is a really dangerous thing to normalize. Everyone can change if they’re given the right kind of attention and put in a ton of work being deprogrammed. There are amazing examples of Nazis and white supremacists finally understanding the impact of their hatred. I’m not saying it’s always going to work, probably not even most of the time. But absolutes like this are not a constructive solution. Threatening death, violence, and/or refusing to even try to rehabilitate racists, bigots, and Nazis only gives them more power.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

I would prefer them to live in constant fear and pain. Let their suffering never end.

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago

A group of masked men with Nazi flags

Just say Nazis CNN. It's not hard. Even the headline sucks.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 67 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

masked men

Fucking cowards

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As Nazis are. Bunch of scared, racist pedos (and before you come at me for the pedo comment, just take a moment and look up how many Nazis have pedo charges)

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I thought masks were bad. Not just bad, but downright dangerous.

That's what we kept being told all through COVID.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Surprised none of them passed out from lack of oxygen./s

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

“Demonstrators” is some really soft-handed phrasing, CNN. There’s a better word for people who wave nazi flags: “Nazis”.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Here, I fixed it:

A group of ~~people~~ Nazis carrying Nazi flags demonstrated outside a community theater performance of “The Diary of Anne Frank” in Livingston County, Michigan, in a display of antisemitism.
Several masked ~~men~~ Nazis showed up waving Nazi flags and reportedly shouted antisemitic and racist slurs outside the American Legion Post 141 in Howell on Saturday during the play, according to CNN affiliate WXYZ.
“People were shocked. They were appalled,” Army veteran Bobby Brite told WXYZ. “Everything you would expect.”
Brite said many of the 75 people who watched the play were afraid to leave the building and had to be escorted to their cars.
“Nobody in America should feel like that,” he said.
~~Demonstrators~~ Nazis were also seen in the nearby town of Fowlerville, according to eyewitnesses.
Alex Sutliff and his wife were driving home through downtown Fowlerville when they came across a group of masked ~~men~~ Nazis waving Nazi flags.
“They were saying awful antisemitic things that I don’t even feel comfortable repeating myself,” Sutliff told CNN on Tuesday.
Sutliff, who filmed the brief encounter, said the group of Nazis “all stuck their hands up” and chanted “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump.”
Sutliff’s interaction with the ~~demonstrators~~ Nazis took place at a stoplight, and when the light turned green, he drove away before things could escalate.
He and his wife called local police to report what they saw, and then circled back to let the ~~demonstrators~~ Nazis know that authorities were on their way.
“The second that they heard that they were on the way, they all packed up their stuff and ran away.”
CNN has reached out to the Livingston County Sheriff’s Office for further details.
The Fowlerville Community Theatre, which put on the production, said in a statement the play “centers on real people who lost their lives in the Holocaust” and added the cast and crew “endeavored to tell their story with as much realism as possible.”
“On Saturday evening, things became more real than we expected,” the group said. “The presence of ~~protesters~~ Nazis (this one I may be willing to let slide if it’s a direct quote) outside gave us a small glimpse of the fear and uncertainty felt by those in hiding.”
“As a theatre, we want to make people feel and think. We hope by presenting Anne’s story, we can help prevent the atrocities of the past from happening again.”
Citing the sheriff’s office, The Detroit News reported the ~~demonstrators~~ Nazis left after being told to vacate the legion post’s parking lot, then ensued in a brief exchange of words with patrons while across the street.
The Anti-Defamation League’s regional office in Michigan said on social media it was “disgusted by the far-right extremist~~s~~ Nazis (again, this may be a direct quote?) who praised Hitler and waved Nazi flags outside of an American Legion hosting the play.”
The county has faced similar displays of racism this year. In July, White supremacist~~s~~ Nazis marched through Howell, located roughly 40 miles northwest of Detroit.
Threats to Jews in the US tripled in the one-year period since the deadly October 7 attack on Israel by Hamas, preliminary data provided to CNN by the ADL showed. In the weeks following October 7, reports of hate crimes and bias incidents targeting Jews, Muslims and Arabs all surged.
“The Diary of Anne Frank” was published posthumously and has been translated into more than 70 languages in more than 60 nations, with several film and stage adaptations. Her diary is often a teen’s first introduction to the horrors of the Holocaust caused by Nazis during World War II.
She and seven others, all Jewish, hiding in a secret annex above a canal-side warehouse in Amsterdam for nearly two years were detained and deported in 1944. Anne later died in the Bergen Belsen concentration camp at age 15.
Growing fears of antisemitism remains a present issue – including in Amsterdam. In July, a statue of Anne in a local park was vandalized with the word “Gaza” scrawled in red paint. More recently, people were beaten and injured in violent clashes between fans of an Israeli soccer team and counter-protesters in the city over the weekend, which Dutch authorities condemned as antisemitic.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Someone should send this to Netanyahu as an example of actual antisemitism.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

The far right extremists are feeling more and more emboldened.

Don’t hide from these assholes. That’s how they win.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

When you vote in a Nazi, expect Nazis to be validated.

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[–] gcy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

it should be legal to shoot fascists

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They gave our grandpas medals for shooting Nazis.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you do, and you're arrested, demand a jury trial. If I'm on it, you have nothing to worry about.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Never let the law stop you from doing what's right.

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[–] 7toed@midwest.social 28 points 2 weeks ago

What are they protesting CNN?

Journalist malpractice to not call 'em what they are.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, America, you voted for this bullshit. Drink it up.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

"I take it back, people are not truly good at heart. They're miserable fucking assholes."

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that such hateful people still exist in the world is staggering. Anne Frank was only 15 years old when she died, so not only are they being incredibly racist, they're also mocking the death of an innocent child. We only get to live on this planet for a short time, so why can't we just love eachother?

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

And then they were all gunned down by good guys with guns, right? Right?

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is our future. The voters enabled this behavior and it will only get worse.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

A small price to pay to ~~lower the cost of groceries~~ have prices go even higher but still continue to blame Democrats.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, Howell is a big cluster fuck of Nazis. I wouldn't be sad if someone blew it up.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

It's a lovely little town. You'd never know driving through. I even used to work there briefly, never saw a single hint of racism. They have a pretty good Thai restaurant.

Of course, I also never saw a single black person there. I briefly contemplated moving there and then just quietly voting against all their bullshit, but I don't really want to be that close to folks like that. Certainly don't want my kids around it.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans were waiving Nazi flags, let be honest in our reporting.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Typical shitty MAGATs waving their favorite flag.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's just tRump garbage mainstream

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