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Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 215 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Please let them be too busy fighting amongst themselves these next four years they just are unable to get anything destructive done.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 week ago

I am 100% in favor of teenage drama derailing their efforts to remove bodily autonomy from women.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's the plan. But while the government is ineffective, big businesses will have free reign to fuck us over.

[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

True...but big business still needs us to buy their products, so we are of some use to them

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 145 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't really see 2 egos of that size coexisting. I'm terrified of being wrong about that in this case though

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you see Don's face when Elon was doing his jumping shit? Don's already sick of him, and only keeping him around because he's worth so much.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Donny always needs about tree fitty.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“So I said, ‘monster, what are you gonna do with tree fitty?’”

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My coping fantasy plays off of their arrogance. Imagine it. On the day of Trump’s inauguration, he admits that climate change is real and shouts, “good luck, suckers,” as he and Musk board a SpaceX rocket bound for Mars.

A guy can dream. lol

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And it explodes on the launchpad?

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean the King of All Cosmos has a codpiece the size of the moon, so I dunno if he's really a good voice on the subject.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I like to imagine them running out of oxygen and food on Mars after weeks of nonstop arguing, expelling their final, hateful words at each other.

Either way, it’s like having a warm cup of tea under a blanket while I wait out the storm that is my mind.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 129 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Sounds like "trumps longstanding advisors" are worried they did all this work to get trump in power to use him are seeing musk come in and begin to use trump instead of them.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pretty much. His advisors have quietly expressed "concern" to the media about a lot of things, and they go nowhere.

Every once in a while, it does. Laura Loomer seems to have been forgotten. That might just be Trump getting bored with sleeping with her, though.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

He'll have them sign something saying they were never advisors at all and he was there from the start.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

Honestly, once Trump gets sworn in, I assume the people around him who want to implement Project 2025 won't have any more use for him. That's why Vance is there, just look at his track record, he knows how to play ball.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I can only pray that they all tear each other to shreds.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Let the infighting begin! Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

I wonder how many mooches he'll last.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

Now thats a mutually assured destruction scenario I'd be in favor of.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Donald "I have the record for the most people fired from a cabinet" Trump? He only hires the best people!

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[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yup! Weirdly Trump's own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go "wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit". Pretty incredible stuff.

Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There's no ideology or barely even planning in him I don't think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as "power".

Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he's the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I'll end my rant heh.

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[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 57 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Oh please let Trump's first dictatorial move be to strip Elon of his wealth. We're all going to suffer some shit but let at least one oligarch stuffer too

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It can start by denaturalizing him since he lied on his immigration forms and was in the country illegally when he first came here. That's not even dictatorial, it's the letter of the law.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

"First they came for the Oligarchs and I did not speak out - because I was not an Oligarch, and really because wage inequality is the core problem facing our society so coming for the Oligarchs seemed like a pretty good idea to me."

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting

... that's one way to put it.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Over assertively impregnates employees as a hobby

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

The only redeeming feature of this whole sorry mess will be watching those hyaenas constantly tearing each other apart.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny... I said that when Trump dies it will be total chaos because all these people hate each other and they will all work as hard as possible to tear each other apart since Trump is the only thing that unites them.

Maybe we won't have to wait for Trump to die.

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump has a habit of burning everyone close to him the second it is either (A) useful to him or (B) they are no longer unswerving loyal to their fuhrer. Musk is a dumbshit nepobaby who can't shut the fuck up and steals credit for everything he's near that he didn't ruin. It's only a matter of time before Trump burns Musk, and all I can ask for is that it completely ruins them both.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

The billionaire cosplayer feels inadequate next to the actual billionaire

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like we'll be bringing back Mooches as a measure of political tenure soon.

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[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure a little over half of the conservatives hate Musk just as much as the left does. He painted himself as a victory factor when in reality he's just a liability. Conservatives don't like the reminder that Trump got less votes this time that in 2020, and I like to say Elon is why.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Elon almost certainly earned votes for Trump by

  1. Funding a shit ton of election ads
  2. Using Twitter to push propaganda
[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I begrudgingly have to concede and acknowledge that you are correct. That being said, he still did so indirectly as his name and ugly fucking face weren't attached to those.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Elon Musk is a once in a generation business leader

That's not a compliment, that's a prerequisite to becoming everything Musk currently is. If "a generation" of people had been afforded even one percent of the privilege he's received, Musk would've been outshined by more competent people long ago.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

One can only hope.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

lol trying to fuck with the federal reserve. that didn't take long

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suspect Musk's welcome is as long as his chequebook. I think trump sees the $, if his "advisors" are offering him less $ I doubt Trump cars to listen.

The only issue might be if any of it could be proven to be criminal bribery - that seems unlikely though.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump is literally and figuratively immune against any prosecution. He raped children, stole and killed millions.

I am no American, but at this point I think he could produce and distribute CP right in the oval office and nothing would happen. And that is the one thing next to murder, he didn't already commit publicly.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Elon Musk = Trump's Rasputin?

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

They deserve each other.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People don't understand, they both speak the same language. They're both natural grifters... What's more Musk is probably better at it than Trump was. Trump needed lessons from Roy Cohn, who was a ruthless, damaged, low empathy, closet homosexual and self-hater.

Musk didn't need that kind of mentor, he's a natural grifter, and my bet is that Trump is fascinated by him. They do similar things in different ways.

Only in certain scenarios would this blow up, and Musk has already bent the knee to Trump, so those scenarios are unlikely.

Musk is a friendly fellow grifter Trump can use, and has power over, which is what Trump likes.

At best we'll see Musk become a fall guy for Trump's shortcomings. But seeing as Trump may later die in office, Musk might also avoid such a fate. Only time will tell.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on the pictures Elon thinks he owns Trump. This is going to be fun.

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