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[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 93 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would have thought that β€œy’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of β€œyou all” right?

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Y'all has become my goto nowadays, up in the northeast

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not a gap in every dialect! "Ye" is another plural second person used in Ireland

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Hear y'all hear y'all, Reggie King from o'er the holler brought pawpaw moonshine for the weddin'

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The worst is when a language formally has a disambiguating word but then speakers all just decide to not use it.

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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

I'm German and I use y'all all the time when speaking English. it's funny, most of my English is from the internet so it's the most crazy mix of english

[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Why bother with importing y'all when we already have yous (or youse depending on how you want to spell it)? Or you could just treat 'you guys' as gender neutral, it effectively is these days with how people use it.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Youse is too damn bogan for my taste

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[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an Australian, why bother importing "y'all" when everyone is already "mate"?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was going to say something similar, but thinking everyone is "cunt".

Yes, it's gender neutral.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Yinz goin aht n abaht in dahntahn Picksburgh to watch da Stillers game?

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This needs a line going up the Appalachians for the "You-uns" belt.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And somewhere there's "yinz".

[–] jrubal1462@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was just about to point out that the map is missing a small "yinz" enclave around Pittsburgh/Johnstown

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[–] socialpankakemix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

as a trans person, I'm not offended by y'all in the slightest

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I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought y'all was just a gender neutral term combining you and all.

How would it be wrong or offensive to refer to refer to trans person as "y'all"? Genuine question.

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[–] ninjaturtle@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm from New Jersey and have never heard anyone unironically say "youse guys". Side note we also don't call it "Joisey".

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

How you fuckers doing, eh?

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Y’all actually has gained particular traction in the north through the queer community. Most trans people I know use y’all even if their geographic location doesn’t indicate they should

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Y'all reminds me of the bible belt. I'm not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

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[–] Olap@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yous in Scotland is great to wind up Proper English speakers. If they whinge they get a y'all

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

Second person never has a gender in English. Saying "you" should also be fine, or "thee" if you feel like getting your quaker on.

Special requests notwithstanding - the platinum rule here is just to accommodate whatever you reasonably can.

[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People who don't even live in the USA saying "y'all" is pure pain

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[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago

I'll throw in "folks" as another gender neutral option. I say "you folks" all the time, especially in professional contexts. I'm not from the South, but I have family there so y'all is a part of my vocabulary. I use it in more informal situations pretty commonly.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Y'all = you all, which is gender neutral.

Also that map is missing the Chicagoland y'all exclave.

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