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I'm just sick of Reddit.

The communities there seem much more active than the once on lemmy, which is not a surprise.

However, I oftentimes find myself doom scrolling through reddit, just because of some nonsense BS propaganda, ads, etc .., snuck inbetween of the community posts I'm actually interested in.

How can we convince the people over there to move away?

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago

You can't be that sick of it if you want even let go of the place.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

Just mention lemmy from time to time on other platforms; not to say "please come here", but rather just to let people know that lemmy exists and has interesting stuff on it. People will check it out if they are interested.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 48 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We don't. We just continue to stay here and grow and flourish naturally. I see no need to rush.

[–] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Yup, I say it in every thread of this sort I see pop up, you definitionally can't force organic engagement.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It can be frustrating to go from a thriving niche subreddit to a new venue without anyone to populate those niche communities. Outside of ML, FOSS, and Star Trek, most of the niche communities are ghost towns.

I don't think anyone is suggesting convincing AskReddit or /r/memes to migrate. I think they're mostly targeting /r/ObscureInterestYou'veProbablyNeverHeardOf.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Why bother?

Reddit isn't Lemmy. Lemmy is Lemmy.

Enjoy who's here. Hi. I'm GhiLA.

[–] ericjmorey@discuss.online 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Lemmy needs to mature on a technical basis. The Lemmy service itself is still lacking significantly. But it it progressing.

Outside of technical limitations, focus on communities. A few good ones are better than many mediocre ones.

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Asking people to do something will never work, telling people how something is better will trigger their curiosity to at least take a look.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol it's porn.

Not anything else. Provide the better covert porn outlet.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's porn on here. Lemmynsfw.com is actually the second most populous instance irrc (or top 3?). Just got to convince people to post to it. But then we got the same problem of trying to convince people to do that lol.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Don't you need an account to access it?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

What about porn bots?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

can't. the ones that are still there wouldn't understand how to use lemmy and the fediverse and they'll just bash for the same reasons that bsky users bash mastodon. They want things to "just work" out of the box and are too lazy to figure things out.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

“… too lazy to figure things out.” Yup, just like when somebody calls a plumber, or a mechanic or a therapist. Stop being lazy and master something in a field where you have no experience or desire to learn.

[–] ProtonFiber@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not really the problem, some mods just bury threads about it, you can see an arrogant mod from self-host subreddit in a thread, attempt to plead to move elsewhere: https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ (this was a week ago) You can see why some still didn't by the replies, and lack of understanding how to use Lemmy isn't one of them.

[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 days ago

They allegedly remove posts/comments about lemmy? And even if they don't, I feel like it could have the opposite effect. People would see those posts just like ads/promotion/spam. Which would give lemmy a bad rep. Unless something big happens, like some big community switching to lemmy, or someone with a big following promotes lemmy, it will hardly see a big spike in user count.

The only way is to passively "advertise" it. Maybe add the link to your lemmy account in your reddits about you section, if you are making OC add your lemmy handle there as well...

And the last way, which is most likely the best way to do it, is to post good content on lemmy, keep communities alive. And people will eventually join.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm honestly not sure I want the majority of reddit users coming to lemmy. Especially as a woman. There's just so much more nastiness on reddit. I get that sometimes the content on Lemmy slows down or gets stale, but that seems like a reasonable price to pay to avoid people with chronic interpersonal problems and no healthy emotional outlet. I think every exchange I've had on Lemmy has at least been respectful and I can't recall ever feeling that way on reddit.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

That has not always been my experience, although I can see why you on Lemmy.World would say so (bc it defederates from lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net, where most of the hostility across the Fediverse concentrates), but indeed the average interaction here is much more positive than on Reddit (even though the worst, e.g. if you ever comment in ChapoTrapHouse@hexbear.net, is significantly more negative than Reddit ever was allowed to become by the admins).

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 5 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Which communities? I personally find most of my favorite communities to be better in lemmy than on Reddit, with a few exceptions.

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A few niche examples:

/r/generative /r/musicians /r/wildernessbackpacking /r/tropicalweather /r/analogcommunity /r/heavymind

Good luck convincing the non-technical users there to come here. This place is currently great for interests catered to programmers and sysadmins (speaking as one!), but artist and hobby communities are seriously lacking.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

If the community doesn't exist, have you tried creating one?

If it does exist, have you tried posting there?

Believe me or not that's how it starts.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well there are some video game ones.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the community doesn't exist, have you tried creating one?

If it does exist, have you tried posting there?

Believe me or not that's how it starts.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've thought about it...

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Ya I just got to reddit for specific video game ones now basically. Or specific TV shows.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Buildapcsales gamedeals boardgamedeals etc. it was nice when they still have Api access because you could track prices.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Anything niche by computer geek standards So, like, anything from normie interests to things that are so niche that you need 30 million MAU to have an active space.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Most of them are bots anyway and I really wouldn't want "everyone" to find out about and use lemmy because that would be the downfall of lemmy.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Send interesting Lemmy links to people you know. That's how they get interested, and check it out. You won't convince many people by extolling the benefits of the Fediverse, you just have to show them that they'll be entertained, and maybe they'll be somewhat more likely to switch if they know it won't enshittify. I'd say you should send links from instances that don't federate with some of the weirder places like Hexbear though, that's likely to turn people off until they realize how the Fediverse works.

One thing that we could use more of that draws people in is posts about relationship issues. Entertaining for almost everyone, and pretty much anyone can create them from their own experience.

[–] Nangt3c@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Why? So moderators can come here and ban you from their communities if you don't agree with their biased bullshit and politics? No thank you

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Mods can't ban you from their fediverse community. You could just post from another site. It is why fediverse is superior to reddit.

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[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are already some communities with the same tooic, but without much interaction, so I was mainly refering to joining existing ones.

However, even if that happens, one can simply go ahead and create a new community with normal mod behavior.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don't bother, just make your own communities or magazines and contribute to them regularly.

"If you build it, they will come."

You can tell people about it if you like (especially if it comes up casually in conversation), but if you try to push it too hard you'll drive people away.

If the fediverse grows too quickly, it will also introduce more problems existing systems may not be able to handle.

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