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[–] envis10n@lemm.ee 167 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So he sells a bunch of shares right before the announcement that is likely going to tank their stock price

[–] Makhulu@geddit.social 115 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We should come up with a name for such an act

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should make it illegal too!

[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to make sure we come up with a way to enforce it as well!

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Okay, you lost me there now buddy!

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It actually is. The insider sells have to be announced well in advance.

[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Psst! That was the joke!

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Makes it easier for executives to plan when to make announcements like this.

So he scheduled selling 2,000 shares 3 months ago. Then made the announcement a few days after the sales clear. Easily planned for on this type of announcement.

They also do the same thing for positive news that will increase the stock prices. Announce it a few days before their scheduled sale.

Creating a routine selling/buying schedule that coincides with expected announcement periods is pretty easy.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something catchy, like the 'buy and bail'.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

cum and run

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Cocksucking!

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretty sure CEOs need to jump through more hoops to sell their shares like reporting that they plan to sell.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

And if they don't, sometimes they get a slap on the wrist, assuming the money is still within the country. Which it ain't.

[–] FredericChopin_@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I’m not one to defend CEOs but don’t they usually have these orders in place years in advance?

Edit: Ask a question. Get a downvote but no correction. Why?

[–] envis10n@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You think they just suddenly came up with this model? No shit they have to jump through hoops. That doesn't stop them from doing it in advance of something like this

[–] shish_mish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Yes that appears to be the case...

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

A "bunch" being 2000 when he still owns like 3000x that. This was a quarterly tax sell off that an unethical reporter is using to get clicks.

Hes a dick but this stock selling isn't nefarious.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not that scumbag ceos wouldn't do such a thing, but doesn't appear to be the case here: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/U/ Anyways, investors love this subscription model recurring revenue junk, makes sense that if anything their stock price has risen from this announcement. We'll see how it pans out in the long term though.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Price is tanking at the opening bell while the market overall is flat or positive.

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[–] envis10n@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Depending on how long the backlash can stick around, I would expect to see it go down with a large exodus. In particular, if Microsoft gets upset about the impact it could have to gamepass. Unity does seem to be backtracking, but it really feels like they overextended on purpose to make the actual result feel less shitty

[–] VeracityMD@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you RTFA he's been selling shares steadily over the last year. This is not exactly a sudden dump.

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[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 149 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh the guy who made EA suck is now making Unity suck what a shocker

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He should go work for Epic, they're really just begging to be run into the ground by a shitty CEO

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nah Sweeny might be a goof but it's nice to see a geek instead of a suit run things

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[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They already are.

[–] TsarVul@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Like laying down a mighty fart just as the elevator doors close, Unity management abandon the aircraft they were supposed to captain on their golden parachutes. The corporate money making machine continues to chug on.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As they say, trust is built in drops and lost in buckets. This guy is a fucking idiot, even by corporate douchebag standards

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I wish I was a well connected idiot 😞

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’m pretty sure every moderately in touch indie developer has removed Unity from their future projects. They’ve entirely lost the trust of the community and probably can’t do anything to earn it back

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[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He sold 2,000 fucking options at $1.43 a piece today. The largest trade he's ever made was selling 1,899,317 units of Unity Software stock on 4 June 2020 worth over $87,615,493. On average, Mr trades about 193,001 units every 155 days since 2012.

Stop clicking on yahoo finance shit articles. List of his unity sales history: https://wallmine.com/people/85761/john-s-riccitiello

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adding to this: SEC regs for officers in public companies require them to plan and disclose trades well in advance. It's not exactly my field and I'm way too lazy to research, but it's probably like one or two quarters in advance. This is to prevent market panic and speculation exactly like the bs in this thread.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, I didn't bother to include the advance disclosure requirements. Publically traded company employees with insider information are banned from trading on it (theoretically could be anyone but generally just reserved for execs who actually make enough off the dishonesty to be worth going after). Execs can't even trade in real time as the temptation is obviously too great, they have to make any buy/sell purchases of their own company a quarter in advance.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember rooting for Unity over Unreal because I like using C# over C++ (because smooth brain). But when he stated that if dev aren't using mobile then they are dumb (paraphrasing), I shifted to Unreal. Glad I did after seeing this shit show. Hope he gets the boot after this.

[–] Dawn@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I liked using unity cause it was faster, more light weight, and had much more community based things around it. I've been mainly developing in unreal this past year due to it being a group thing, but I'm gonna be fully switching over to Godot for any personal or individual development now.

[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I looked at C++ code and C# code and decided to go for C# because it's actually readable for someone starting.

[–] mrsgreenpotato@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He already knew a long time ago that this ship is sinking... What a pity, time to learn Godot.

[–] learningduck@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not defending the CEO, but selling 2k shares mean nothing for a CEO. I believe this would be a small percentage of his bonus.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Still immoral. I know everyone here is arguing about SEC regulations and that fuckboy was technically within his legal rights, but I’d like to remind you all that THE LAW IS ONLY THE BARE MINIMUM FOR ACCEPTABLE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR AND YOU SHOULD PROBABLY AIM WELL ABOVE IT TO NOT BE A COMPLETE SHITBAG

I don’t care about what’s legal, this was still an immoral move.

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According to the article, he has sold over 50000 within the last year alone, and hasn't buy back a single one. And that's already saying something.

[–] sadbehr 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This move is part of a larger trend for the insider, who over the past year has sold a total of 50,610 shares and purchased none.

Nothing suspicious about that.

[–] learningduck@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those could've been just employees selling mature stock options.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the new Reddit, things like reasoning don't go with the group think, we don't do that here.

/s obviously, since this was downvoted thought I'd be sassy about the general decline in lemmy quality.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Besides slashdot back in the day I'm not sure if there's a single place on the internet where people stop to think. And slashdot was heavily biased too come to think of it.

[–] canni@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

I mean that's only like $70,000, which I'm guessing for him isn't a huge amount of money.

[–] CEbbinghaus@mas.to 1 points 1 year ago
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