Because of the way this headline is phrased, I am forced to assume that "who allegedly tried to open door during American Airlines flight" is a clause, and that the passengers duct taped this man to the state of Texas.
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They duct taped him TO TEXAS?!?
The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.
So for future reference, especially for those of you who do such things recreationally, facedown restraint is very risky from a respiratory standpoint, especially with the limbs back in the hogtie position, that is how the cops kill people (I would say accidentally except they have enough education on the topic to preclude that). But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.
But ultimately I'm mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That's the obvious first priority there. Damn.
It’s physically impossible to open a door on an airplane during most stages of the flight. The door first needs to move inward before opening, and the pressure differential is absurd. The handle would break long before you’d open the door. The only time it’s really possible is near the ground as you’re coming in to land or taking off (which did happen recently).
I'm going to trust that you're correct.
But I'm still going to duct tape the psychopath for everyone's safety, including the psychopath.
You would ideally keep their hands restrained in front of them but if they're too dextrous to allow that you want to at least keep them on their side. That said, not a level of understanding I typically expect from laypeople (vs, for instance, trained police officers).
Boeing aircraft have this safety feature where it fucking immediately falls off so you can always get out if you are the Captain and need to escape from the bad duct tape wielders.
That's not true on every plane.
Typically for doors that don't open inward first, they have interlocks.
For example, the over wing doors on a 737ng don't open inward, they are actually spring loaded on a hinge and swing directly outward, there is a locking pawl that engages and disengages automatically under specific circumstances, requiring the squat switches on the landing gear to be engaged and the throttles to be in an idle position.
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including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris
Should I know these guys?
I can’t believe you forgot the members of Dirty Mike and the Boys
I understand the need to neutralize the threat but duct taping someone to Texas is just cruel
Truly a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime.
There was a CSI episode with a situation similar to this. Of course, since it's CSI, the way that turned out was the mentally ill person was killed (and the episode was about the passengers/crew subtly covering for each other).
Nice case of how in real life, people avoid harm when possible, and in fiction, people are all secretly ruthless savages out for each other's blood.
Oh; I should say, in fiction, and for police, who similarly live in fiction-land.
Assuming it wasn't a Boeing, he wouldn't have been able to get the door open, so at least they weren't in any real danger.
Well, not from the door opening, you are right (pressure difference and such). But he already injured a flight attendant, so I guess he wasn't going to say "oh well it doesn't open, I tried, I'll sit down quietly now".
I wasn't meaning to suggest that. Just that he wasn't endangering everyone on the plane.
Well, not everyone at the same time, just one at a time! Lol
I understand what you mean, I'm just kidding.
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Tbf, being with a violently aggressive person in a tight enclosed space is still risky regardless
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Duct tape fixes everything
Why is duct tape easily available on the airplanes then normal rope to tie? Are the airplanes required to use the duct tape in an emergency case?
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when it's an airplane we call it speed tape and its used all over the aircraft, mostly by maintenance, to keep the plane together. Don't worry about it.
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This probably wasn't duct tape anyway, but special tape for passenger restraint, similar to zip ties, that is stored on board for use in this type of situation
- when it’s an airplane we call it speed tape and its used all over the aircraft, mostly by maintenance, to keep the plane together. Don’t worry about it.
...prior to this comment, I hadn't.
I had one flight where we watched the mechanic go out to the plane's wing and get up in there with duct tape and sticks.
And people ask why we train to jump out of Air Force planes...
Speed tape is a very different thing vs ducktape. Ducktape rips off at speed, speed tape doesn't, hence it being called 'speed tape' (there's even different grades rated for different speeds). It's also only used for sealing gaps in housings or smoothing damaged aerofoil surfaces, its never used for retention of working parts.
(okay I'll admit that sometimes it's used to hold hoses or wiring in place when a retention clip or cable run has been damaged, but thats bad practice and its quite safe. There's a few planes out there that even natively use it for the wiring harness in some really awkward, low-risk sections)
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There is duct tape carried on some commercial airliners.
This is not the same as speed tape, and aluminum tape is not generally carried on airliners. That stays with the mechanics.
Duct tape is used on airplanes all the time, so it's readily available & multi-purpose. While it looks super sketchy, it's actually pretty decent for a temporary fix until a proper repair can be implemented. Sometimes they're criticized for leaving the temporary duct tape fixes on far too long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃
It's 100% true. Nothin more permanent than a temporary fix
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Something tells me he was not the captain. But I'll wait for all the facts to come out before I rush to judgement.
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