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Conveniences, automation, safety plans, etc. Everyone loves winging it and having piles of chores, but then they complain about life being hard, but then they don't change anything

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[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just tell us you're trolling without trying to convince people that you aren't.

Seems like everyone from the instance you're posting from, is just a trolling asshole.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago

I'm not, it's just my childhood is so crazy that it seems like a joke. That family suffered so much when they didn't need to. A relative spent her whole life suffering, and now she died from cancer. The most fun thing she did was play candycrush. That family's mother is worse than I thought.

But honestly, it's so validating that I suffered unnecessarily because of her. I've had the family and everyone say that I was the problem. I was the reason why I was a filthy kid who only showered with water. I was the reason why I had no lunch for school or juice at home. I was the reason why I'd come to school sick and spread the illness around.

They only saw the price tags on my clothes and assumed I chose those clothes. I never liked brand clothes, and if I had the choice, I'd get unbranded stuff and FUCKING BUY BODY WASH AND LUNCH INSTEAD! Like today! Where I NEVER run out of body wash! And I have something to drink all the time now that childhood is over and I CAN WORK! Fuck childhood. Thanks Amazon!

[–] lukhan@fedia.io 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like OP is high during the whole process of making this post and replying to comments. This shit is funny af

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, just remembering horrible experiences. I hate that family and that family's mother more.

[–] lukhan@fedia.io 1 points 56 minutes ago

I am not making fun of you nor judging the way you want to live, i just don't agree with it, that's all. Keep living as you wish, but just so you know the way you present this to people is flawed in some ways.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I hate automation to the point of being a Ludite. We're chasing our own tails. Every new luxury becomes a necessity we can't do without and we become enslaved

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

OP, someone with a different routine for chores is not "vehemently against an easier life" lmao.

[–] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They'd still manually go shopping instead of ordering online for literally the same price or a literally trivial higher amount. Like imagine going in person to buy toilet paper for one and a half dollars cheaper than buying online. Like bro you spent more than 1.5 USD in GAS or public transit going there bruh!

I normalized my crazy mother. Seems like everyone isn't my crazy mother which is a good thing. I don't wish my childhood on anyone. Imagine having the resources to live a better life and have more experiences, and NEVER getting them, and you're not allowed to complain. Imagine being the stinky kid, and being unable to NOT be the stinky kid. You know why you're stinky, but calling out your mother makes you spoiled and entitled.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 47 minutes ago

I feel like you're dealing with some problems and blaming them on different things. Being stinky as a child and your mother not allowing you to wash yourself is something totally unrelated to going to the grocery store versus using a delivery service.

Idk, it seems like you're really upset. Tone doesn't come across well on the Internet and I can tell this thread has you defensive already, so let me be clear when I say that me saying you're upset isn't me trying to somehow dismiss things you're saying because you're emotional. I know that sometimes when I get very upset and emotional, I have a tendency to see things as connected when they're not. Even when I know I'm being overly paranoid I can't help it. It appears as if you're very upset about the way your mother has treated you and you're expressing frustration about it. None of us can know what you've been through. It sounds like you're trying to express a lifetime of anger in a few comments. It's just not going to come across clearly.

When you say "how can people not want to improve their lives" with the context of what you'vw just said, it sounds more like you're lamenting that your parents didn't let you properly bathe yourself. But without this context, it just sounds like you're just being angry at people for frivolous things like choosing to go to the store instead of using a delivery service. (And there are plenty of reasons to want to actually go in person.) It sounds as if you have gotten into a million arguments with your mother during your childhood about these sorts of things. Now, I'm really only guessing here, but it sounds like you're seeing it all as connected. You're seeing the abuse (?) your mother put you through by not letting you bathe as "someone refusing to improve their life" and perhaps equating it to arguments you've had with your mother about using delivery services so save money. But your mother not allowing you to bathe/not providing you with what you needed to bathe as a child isn't your mother "refusing to improve her/your life", it's neglect.

Because it sounds like you're processing some issues, I don't think an Ask Lemmy thread is the right place to do it. Because when you accuse folks of going to the grocery store instead of using deliveries or criticize their methods of doing laundry/taking out garbage, it just sounds like you're being an asshole.

I hope you find your peace.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 45 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

All of you writing cogent arguments and being philosophical should step back and realize this whole thread is an unpaid advertisement for amazon subscription groceries written by someone who thinks they were saved by a job there.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 9 hours ago

I'm glad this is the top comment because lordy have mercy, what is OP on about.

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[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 45 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

I opened the thread thinking, "this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective" and I'm glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren't some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I've seen here so far.

I dunno man, why doesn't everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?

Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone's difficult life.

You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn't pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that's what you sound like, so unless that's the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they're wrong.

Do you really think people with "difficult lives" are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Good its not just me.

Thank god my smart phone can spell sanctimonious for me, its made my life so much easier.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Oooh, what a beautiful word! It'd fallen out of my vocab. Thanks for that.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (10 children)

Because all those nice-to-haves and conveniences in vehicles make it harder and more costly to repair.

Today a classmate showed me the mechanism for the gas door opener her company manufactures (assembles). It's a bunch of rods, a motor, a control board, springs, cables, etc, that run throughout the vehicle.

The fuel door on my '99 Cherokee?
A hinge and a spring.

This is obviously one small example but i feel that this example of over-engineering for very little benefit extrapolates well.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 66 points 19 hours ago (12 children)

A ton of automation and 'convenience' being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.

Smart bulbs are way more work to set up than they are worth for me, a light switch works fine. Cruise control is nice, but lane assist drives me nuts with all the false positives. Generally the overwhelming number of chores comes from just having too many things in the first place.

Fewer, simpler operating things are more enjoyable for me than a lot of complex automated things that don't do what I want them to do.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

ton of automation and ‘convenience’ being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.

People burning alive in Teslas because we don't want those unsightly door handles comes to mind.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I also hate push buttons for things like starting the engine or shifting the gear mode. Please let me physically move something instead of pushing a button more than once so I don't have to take my eyes away from my surroundings in a parking lot.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I had to get a rental car for work earlier this month. It took 10 minutes of YouTube to figure out how to turn the goddamn parking break off. So convenient.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

InTuItIvE dEsIgN

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[–] ClusterBomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I've read the whole threads. I am interested in a brief, short summary of what you have automated. If I've read correctly, you hate going to the grocery, so this is automated? How? What else is automated?

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Because a human who doesn’t move their body becomes miserable and unhealthy. Zero is not a good level of activity.

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[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Automating labor without ensuring it doesn't impact people's ability to obtain needs and wants is objectively worse than them continuing to work

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Do you think convenience is free?

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think people are, but the major factor is cost here - both in money and time. Getting a maid, a nanny, a dog walker, paying extra for delivery, paying for apps, more expensive automation products (e.g., hue) etc. etc.

All of this costs money, and a lot of time to research & test. Not everyone has that.

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