this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
501 points (98.6% liked)

Games

32686 readers
1263 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Weekly Threads:

What Are You Playing?

The Weekly Discussion Topic

Rules:

  1. Submissions have to be related to games

  2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

  3. No excessive self-promotion

  4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

  5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

  6. No linking to piracy

More information about the community rules can be found here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Thought I'd share this in case there are people who are unaware or have been pending off the migration process.

Starting September 19, 2023, at 11:00 am EST/17:00 pm CEST, unmigrated Mojang accounts will not be able to sign in to Minecraft.net or the Minecraft Launcher to migrate. We’re doing this to ensure that everyone is playing using accounts with improved security and player safety.
Source: Minecraft.net article

What will happen to unmigrated accounts?

Once the deadline for migration is reached, players will no longer be able to access unmigrated accounts. All unmigrated accounts will be deleted at a future date.
Source: help.minecraft.net

What if you don't have access to the email address associated with your Mojang account, or have any other queries?

The details are unclear. The Minecraft help center link says "Minecraft player support will no longer be able to help with migration-related issues after September 5, 2023." whereas the minecraft.net article states "[...] starting September 19, 2023, Minecraft Support will no longer be able to assist in any MSA migration-related tickets."

What do you get for migrating to a Microsoft account?

Microsoft claims improved account security, and 2FA. You will get a Migrator cape and access to Minecraft for Windows (Bedrock Edition) on the Microsoft account chosen at the time of migration.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] clif@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried to recover my Mojang account and migrate it three times. Each attempt gets a stock response asking for certain info (receipt, email, username). When I provide this, I get a response from a different support user asking for the same thing I just provided. After three to five back and forths (with the same questions and the same answers) I get busy, frustrated, and leave it for a few weeks.

Once I have time, I start over and the exact same thing repeats again.

I wrote it off as a loss last year with an asterisk of "another reason to fucking hate Microsoft"

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I bought it during beta testing and my account was attached to an old email. Gave up trying to migrate years ago. I'm actually surprised they still haven't deleted it already.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 7 points 1 year ago

Class action time?

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is bullshit. What could it possibly matter to them, other than to force people onto their miserable platform. Bastards.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Authentication servers do not run themselves, they need babysitting and patching and upgrading because this is users' passwords and secrets. Microsoft obviously does not want to keep managing this old login system because it's miserable unrewarding janitorial work for a sysadmin or a developer.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You're welcome to take on the rewrite of our auth-service too, since it seems so trivial in your world. Always fun to drag legacy services around for those 12 really loud and angry users.

[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They don’t want to hire people to build and maintain a secure login platform when their parent company already has one. This is way more work and liability than most people realize.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Knusper@feddit.de 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone left behind, Minetest is a community-developed alternative.

It's more of a game engine/launcher + highly moddable, so the base game is rather minimalistic, but you can simply install more extensive games. For example, for a very Minecraft-like experience, MineClone2 is your best bet.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] sam@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So when do I get my refund?

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Never. Microsoft says fuck you.

I will say it sounds like a lovely lawsuit waiting to happen though, especially in countries with good consumer protections. I wonder how Canadian law would feel about this? 🤔

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I paid like, 10 dollars what's gotta be 15 years ago now.

Like if there's a class action lawsuit over this I wouldn't turn down the settlement but I'm not losing any sleep over it

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of us paid $39. :(

Edit: I think that's what it cost. It was awhile ago, but it wasn't cheap.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Unfortunately I doubt any country is going to meaningfully harm them over accounts like this. (I am one of the people that cant migrate because the email I had associated with it is gone and the game was gifted to me so long ago that I wouldn't be able to easily prove it was mine)

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You'd be surprised, EU fines and consequences to shitty anti-consumer actions like this are built to hurt. There's a reason why the new iPhone has USB-C, and it's not out of the kindness of their heart.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Apple is building proprietary USB-C cables that the iPhone will extremely prefer. So absolutely not for kindnes

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I mean, I paid like 8 bucks for the game (or however much it was in the indev version) but it's still shitty and arbitrary.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does this mean we'll need to pay for the game again if we don't do it in time?

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That does appear to be the case at this moment.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sidenote, I have a feeling that's straight up illegal under contract law. IANAL though.

Edit: Just so ppl have something specific: you bought access to the service. It's probably gonna be limited in the User Agreement as "if this service has to be shut down, you agree to lose your access and you don't sue to get your money back". But this is a backend migration and I'm fairly sure this is not something they had in their original contracts. That's why sniff a broken contract and when they don't refund your money, I sniff broken laws.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it's not, it should be.

We can write laws and vote then into power, we can fuck up whatever company we want to.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] thantik@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And when you DO migrate it to a Microsoft account, and DON'T want them to have your phone number, they'll fake "There's been suspicious activity on your account, we HAVE to have your phone number now!" until you give it up.

[–] Auk@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, I found creating a new Microsoft account and doing literally nothing with it for around half an hour is suspicious enough to lock the account and require a phone number.

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I hate that Minecraft is one of the two things I even need a Microsoft Account for.

[–] couscouscivil@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Can't migrate. Will not accept ULA. I now have to rely on pirated version for a game I paid twice. This does not make sense.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

They're gonna delete my game without giving me a refund? Fuck them.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I know this comes across as one of those classic phishing emails that claim to require your immediate attention or else your account will be deleted, but unfortunately in this case it's legitimate.

[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve tried to migrate my account several times in the past. It never works for some reason. Also, I can never seem to untangle the web of deceit known as Microsoft/xbox/Minecraft profiles and family/group settings. About once a year I spend a couple hours trying to sort it out and then give up because it never works. Google can be awful sometimes but at least they figured out “sign in with Google”

[–] freundTech@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

I did it last week and always got an error trying to create a new microsoft account during the migration process, even in different browsers and after disabling adblockers. Then I just manually created a microsoft account on the microsoft website and in the minecraft migration process chose to use an existing account instead of creating one. That worked for some reason.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, no. Microsoft can get bent at 43.625° angle.

[–] amio@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case I'd get around to it too. I went through it a few months ago and it was not easy. They put a fucking idiotic time limit of 15 minutes on the email, which invariably arrived much later than that. I sat spamming the "send email" button out of frustration.

Morons. It's email.

Eventually one happened to actually arrive in time, but I'd leave some spare time to retry if you care at all.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

They probably want it to fail so that they have fewer users on their servers that already paid. I'm sure their attitude is "pay us again if you want to keep playing".

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I thought they'd done this already. They've been pestering for a while right?

[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep getting those emails even though I've migrated my account and can play Java Minecraft through the Microsoft launcher.

Leads me to think my account isn't migrated but I guess I'll know for sure in a week or so.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If you are currently able to login and play, then you should be good. I believe they blocked Mojang and Legacy accounts from logging into the launcher a while back.

Doesn't hurt to check though. Make sure that the upper left corner of the launcher shows your Xbox Gamertag (may be different from your Java Edition username) and says "Microsoft account".

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the FYI, haven't played in years but got it merged to my Xbox account with no issues.

[–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying there's still time, cool I'll get around to that Later. ..

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for reminding me. I've just migrated.

Not sure when the next time will be that I can play Minecraft, but I guess it's nice that I can when I want to at any point into the future.

[–] ZugZug@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

RIP all my accounts..

load more comments
view more: next ›