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Donald Trump pledged to impose a 25% tariff on all products from Mexico and Canada on his first day in office, blaming them for failing to stop illegal drugs and immigration.

He also vowed to add a 10% tariff on Chinese goods until drug trafficking into the U.S. ceases.

Economists warn these tariffs could drive up consumer prices and inflation.

While violent crime has declined in recent years, Trump continues to link trade measures to border security and drug issues, echoing his first-term trade policies and immigration stance.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 160 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

USA uses Tariffs.
It hurt itself in its confusion!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

100% tariffs on China!
60% tarrifs on China!

....10% tarrifs on China?

Wait a minute. You mean I ran on bad policy and now I'm learning it was all bad ideas and people voted for me?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From the article

levy an additional 10% tariff on top of existing tariffs on Chinese products coming into the United States.

He's not setting the Chinese tariffs at 10%, he's adding an extra 10%.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Additional 10% to what though. Right now we don't have tarrifs on all Chinese goods that I know of, so it would be 10 total unless he means an additional 10 on his last remark of 60 making it 70%? Wish the guy could actually write out a policy so companies can make plans on how best to function over the next x amount of years.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So not a blanket tariffs on all Chinese imports then, just targeted ones. He had originally campaigned that he was going to roll back the CHIPS act, but hopefully he changed his mind.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was a 100% tariff on China at one point lol

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

There was a speech where he said 250% on Mexico at one point. He just pulls it all out his ass.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I mean he seemed shocked on election night.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrnraEVaWTM

All you have to do is watch 1:00 to 1:20. He literally says, "We overcame obstacles that nobody thought possible, and it is now clear that we've achieved the most incredible political thin--, Look what happened, is(n't?) this crazy?"

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[–] admin@lemmyusa.com 152 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can guarantee you my paycheck won't increase even a single percentage.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nor will it bring manufacturing jobs back

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It will destabilize the western markets / economic/ financial systems.

Putin will be pleased.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Glad more people are becoming aware of the new Rasputin.

He has a substack, btw.

A couple previous comments I've made about him and the situations. One has his substack link.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/12638901

https://lemmy.ca/comment/12679885

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This:

Has become

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago

Yah, that’ll fix inflation, you fucking stable genius.

What a shithole country.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure most of the drugs coming in from Canada are in the possession of seniors who can't afford American medical care.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He doesn't give a fuck. He will avoid prison and that is all that matters to him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh I know. I was just pointing that out considering how many of them voted for him.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago

(And most of the illegal immigrants are escaping USA)

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ah, yes. Canada, where all the people who have social services, healthcare, and general peace, without fear of daily shootings, try to escape from.

I wonder where all the drugs in Canada come from.(aside from weed. Everyone I know grows at home now)

Trump is not making America great. He's trying to destabilize the western economic system.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump hates NATO, The UN, and NAFTA. They were created after his father was born, so they must be bad ideas. That's why he loves tariffs so much, because his daddy sang their praises, because the rich tanking the economy in the 1920s and 1930s allowed Trump's grandfather to solidify his fortune, and allowed Trump's daddy to make his fortune, both by buying up everything they could on the cheap.

Depressions only inconvenience the rich, but allow them to get even more fabulously wealthy by buying up everything for pennies on the dollar. Depressions kill the poor, and harm what's left of the working middle class.

As a leftist I normally wouldn't even acknowledge that the middle class, aka, the petit bourgeois even exists as the poor and the rest of the workers are all one class, but in this one case it is useful to differentiate between the intentional harm that the ruling class is causing.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well, it's because we already sent you all our worst. It took a stable genius to notice we did it. Everyone else just saw us as your nice friendly neighbours to the north, but remember how we behave in the wars? Where did all those people go?

Actually, it's become a little bit true lately as some Canadians were accidentally the recipient of whatever the hell made people into "MAGA people", so some of them actually have gone down to be closer to the "fountain of TRUTH"... and so they would look less silly wearing MAGA hats... I mean, sure, Canada is also technically America, but... yeah, they wear those hats up here too, luckily not as many.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

2016 Trump: We're gonna build the wall 10ft higher!

2024 Trump: We're gonna make the price of everything 10% higher!?

[–] GreenSkree@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

2024 voters: InFlAtIoN tOo HiGh! TrUmP bEtTeR fOr ThE eCoNoMy!!1

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

10%? It'll be a hell of a lot more than that if he does all he's threatening to do.

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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He’s gonna get rid of the income tax too right? Right?

No? So everything costs more and farmers go out of business. Got it. But hey, you maga aholes got to own us libs. That sure was awesome! /s. Have fun being homeless you tools.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

As soon as things go south, they'll become the Biden tariffs that the damn, dirty liberals inflicted on America.

We've always been at war with Eurasia, Eastasia is our ally.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

This is late stage capitalism. The oligarchs are now in charge and they are going to loot every last penny that they can then run away laughing.

Musk announced that he was going to gut NASA which directly benefits SpaceX.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay, but are you going to stimulate US manufacturers to fill in the vacuum you'll create? Unless manufacturers have somewhere else to get their materials from, this will just result in shortages of everything.

We're gonna be seeing empty shelves in stores again. But there'll be no new virus to explain it this time.

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It seems pretty obvious that the plan is to deliberately destroy the US economy.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes one wonder who would benefit from that…

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone with enough money to weather the shit storm. Look at how much money the top 1% made during Covid.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

I think you misspelled “create buying opportunities for the oligarchs”

/s

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

And Canada's and Mexico's as well.

The orange asshole just doesn't gaf about anyone but himself.

He should be first on the BBQ menu.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This will look just spectacular on my grocery bill. Prolly like 75% of my produce comes from Mexico right now.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Not to worry. All the farms in the US will pick up the slack thanks to all that plentiful cheap migrant labor. Oh, wait…

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow. It sure is a good thing we still have domestic products that can compete with all of the imported goods from these major trade partners ...right? Right?

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

its a good thing the US isn't dependent on Canadian electricity or gas....

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

GM stocks are down 8% today.

Congratulations to all the auto workers union members who voted for Trump.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fentanyl, FYI, is used in hospitals and imported legally. I don't know what percentage of illegal supply is pilferage/theft from hospitals, but if fentanyl is bad, then forbid legal imports. There are a lot of media stories about healthcare professionals being caught stealing opioids. in 2020, DEA investigated 3600 drug theft cases at healthcare facilities.

OTOH, the typical overdose danger of fentanyl is using it accidentally, or it contaminating other opioids. Taking more of a weaker opioid provides the same high, afaik.

There are a lot of media stories about healthcare professionals being caught stealing opioids.

Like the new VP's mom, for example.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I hope he does it. I really do. The quickest path to revolution is when people aren't just vibe struggling, it's when they're literally starving because nobody can pay for enough calories to sustain themselves. The faster we get to that point, the faster we can fix all of America's problems by deposing the oligarchs, rewriting the constitution to restore the guardrails of democracy and restructuring the government and the judiciary to serve the people and not corporations.

No balls, Trump, you fucking won't. You'll pussy out at the last minute or get bullied by another world leader with more gumption than you can muster.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What does the price of imports have to do with illegal immigration? Do you think he even knows?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

I think his idea is that Mexico and Canada will, in response, do something about the illegal immigrants they're sending to the US.

Yes, it's deranged, but it's also Trump, so what do we expect.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The tariffs won't be effective on jan 20th. Certainly there will be specific ultimatums made to both countries, and it is irresponsible to set a tariff date, and then later "negotiate the specific threats/ultimatums" to reverse the tariffs. There are government agencies that need to prepare for policy.

Specific to Canada, there is a long history of free trade with comparable wages in auto sector, such that even some parts are shipped across the border for processing and shipped back. A conflict of interest with Musk, is that he doesn't mind destroying North American Auto sector, or big 3 anyway.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Specific to Canada, there is a long history of free trade with comparable wages in auto sector, such that even some parts are shipped across the border for processing and shipped back.

Trump himself signed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (which replaced NAFTA) in his first term ensuring tariff free trade between the 3 nations. So Canada and Mexico are about to learn the lesson that trump's own signed legislation doesn't hold water.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Adieu US economy.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who do you think he's going to pick to succeed to him when he will be tired, Don jr or Ivanka?

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