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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lots of things contribute to this. Vehicle weight (extra stress on the tires), wheel alignment (toe-in/out causes scrubbing which causes more wear), unmaintained suspensions (worn out shocks, struts and bushings causing the above), burnouts (obviously, but, even in winter being the guy doing a burnout on summer tires while trying to get up an icy hill or across the intersection still counts), tire compound, road design, and driving style. If we had more cargo trains doing logi instead of long haul trucks we could probably cut down on a lot of pollution both in exhaust particles and tire particles.

[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yet another problem not solved by EVs

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago

It's actually made a little worse by EVs because of battery weight.

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[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (20 children)

If only there was a highly efficient mode of transporting people that didn’t use tires. Ah well, nothing can be done I guess.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 27 points 3 days ago

Yes, imagine if there was a fast and safe way of transport. Something like made to run on steel bars in order to reduce friction. I don't know. I'm just imagining, I watch too much science fiction.

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[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 155 points 4 days ago (7 children)

If only there was an alternative.
What if we replace vulcanized rubber with a metal ring 🤔

[–] sandwichwhiplashparrot@lemmy.world 139 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it could also run on some kind of metal street, to further reduce friction? 🤔

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (1 children)

we could probably manage traffic much easier if switching was controlled vs. random drivers...

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 71 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While we're at it, maybe we could install some powerlines to provide the vehicles with electricity. That way they could run on renewable energy.

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

And maybe we could connect a bunch of cars together to create some kind of, I dunno, super-car. That way you could move a bunch of people to the same destination in one go.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 126 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Geez, here is another issue for which we've known about for 40 or so years that requires "urgent Action" for the past 40 years already

Wake me up when we finally do something

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Boomers have categorically chosen apathy in favor of their own self interests since 1970. By the late 90s, they were a wrecking ball.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (7 children)

But electric cars will fix everything. Thats what electric car manufacturers said!

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

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[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only thing I see amerikans taking 'urgent action' on is making sure a few select convicted criminals avoid doing any prison time.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

That’s why this is so important. Now that we’re finally starting to move to electric vehicles and can see a future with no exhaust and much less brake dust, that tire pollution stands out even more.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Electric cars are not here to save the planet, they are here to save the car industry.

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[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Action won't happen. In fact, we'll increase the amount of pollution!

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[–] Maetani@jlai.lu 58 points 4 days ago (4 children)

While there's no doubt tires are bad for the environment, a quarter of all microplastics seems a lot, especially since plastic is everywhere. Gladly there's a source for that claim, a link to tireindustryproject's FAQ... Claiming that this number is a gross overestimation. What the fuck is this article? Is it supposed to be satire or something?

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Bear in mind that the denominator is plastic pollution. Most plastic waste does not directly pollute the environment. If it is not recycled then it goes to landfills or incineration. Not ideal, but at least the damage is contained. (The bulk of ocean plastic comes from the rivers of poor countries without proper waste management.)

The issue with tyre microplastics is that it's all but impossible to channel the waste. It's the same with synthetic fabric: just washing it creates pollution that's really hard to control.

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[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 50 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is also yet another reason SUVs are bad: bigger tyres, higher weight, more wear, more pollution.

It's also another reason to have lower speed limits: less friction, less wear, less pollution.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You want trains because they are good for the environment.

I want trains because chugga chugga choo choo.

We are not the same.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 57 points 4 days ago (11 children)

The other big offender are synthetic textiles btw.

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